Harry Reid - ALL ACA Horror Stories Untrue

27 Feb 2014 09:57 #11 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: No, actually the Left accepts the FACTS as revealed by the reporters who dig into the stories and prove that the featured "victims", are 1) Generally Republican political operatives; 2) Lying about the results; 3) Haven't even actually checked what they could get coverage for because they hate the program on general principles....

But thanks for playing.


:LMAO: Really? You believe all these anecdotes are explained above? Just a bunch of plants?
Reality check?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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27 Feb 2014 09:59 #12 by LadyJazzer
Feel free to resume your "overburdened taxpayer" mantra. You still haven't got a clue.

Why don't you look the stories up? Here: www.google.com

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27 Feb 2014 10:06 #13 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: Feel free to resume your "overburdened taxpayer" mantra. You still haven't got a clue.

Why don't you look the stories up? Here: http://www.google.com

D+ grade for your substandard defense of Harry Reid's remarks.
More spittle than normal.

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27 Feb 2014 11:43 #14 by LadyJazzer
Deflect much?

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27 Feb 2014 12:18 #15 by FredHayek
Deflect? When you are wandering off into overburdened taxpayers? Where did you get that from? Tax cuts aren't even being discussed on a national level. Not when you have Obama adding 800 billion to the national debt.

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27 Feb 2014 12:20 #16 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: The sad thing is people on the Left will accept his explanation. Conversly, we are supposed to accept his anecdotes of success as a sign the ACA is all good.


Some will believe or pretend to believe anything they are told. This is from a reliable left wing hater at another site. Who Knew?


"Haven't ran into anyone who was aware of, much less why, the governor of Florida declared the state under martial on 9/7/2001...4 days before his brother was going to visit to read books to school children...and sit out the 9/11 attacks...

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27 Feb 2014 12:40 #17 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Deflect much?


OK. Back on topic. Reid said ALL the stories are untrue. I'll make it easy on you. How about you proving at least three of these are untrue?

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 2732855560
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27834668
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 0423780446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0FHI0vFNgY
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/ ... IA20140208
http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/inde ... ys_he.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRryhvZrwhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ikgQCKilw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuA2_P-m4Sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Klg--vvWlc
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... p-process/
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/obamas ... -anecdote/

So... all of these stories are untrue? So all of these stories are financed and backed by the Koch Brothers? Prove to me that just three of them are untrue. Go ahead... I'll wait

(I'll hand you a gimme... start with the last one first) :rofllol

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27 Feb 2014 13:40 #18 by pineinthegrass
Reid first said all the ads were untrue, but he later amended his remarks to:

I can’t say that every one of the Koch brothers’ ads are a lie, but I’ll say this: Mr. President, the vast, vast majority of them are.


The Washington Post fact checker awarded Reid two Pinocchios for his revised remark.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/02/27/harry-reids-claim-that-the-vast-majority-of-afps-obamacare-ads-are-lies/

Here is Politifact's take on one of the ads (they don't mention the Koch brothers)...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/feb/26/advocacy-group-stirs-michigan-senate-race-ad-f/

The bottom line is that many of the ads are misleading. But we're talking about political ads here. The bar is set very low by both parties.

And don't forget Politifact's lie of the year...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/

And the Pants on Fire attempt to explain it away...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/nov/06/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-what-hed-said-was-you-could-keep/

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27 Feb 2014 18:25 #19 by LOL
Why does anyone pay any attention to the garbage coming out of Reid, Pelosi or Obama's mouth?

Liars?

You mean like the ACA penalty/fine is not a tax? You mean like you can keep your current health plan and doc, PERIOD.? You mean like the ACA won't increase deficits? Or that health insurance (er health care) premiums are going down not up? You mean like this law will achieve 100% Universal coverage? Or that these gov't health care exchanges will be convenient easy one-stop shopping with lots of competition driving down prices, instead of insurers bailing out of lots of them and they are costly and buggy and insecure and bureaucratic boondoggles worse than the MV office?

The list of lies and political BS is endless.

If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2

Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.

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27 Feb 2014 18:41 #20 by Reverend Revelant

LOL wrote: Why does anyone pay any attention to the garbage coming out of Reid, Pelosi or Obama's mouth?

Liars?

You mean like the ACA penalty/fine is not a tax? You mean like you can keep your current health plan and doc, PERIOD.? You mean like the ACA won't increase deficits? Or that health insurance (er health care) premiums are going down not up? You mean like this law will achieve 100% Universal coverage? Or that these gov't health care exchanges will be convenient easy one-stop shopping with lots of competition driving down prices, instead of insurers bailing out of lots of them and they are costly and buggy and insecure and bureaucratic boondoggles worse than the MV office?

The list of lies and political BS is endless.


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