Charles Koch: I'm Fighting to Restore a Free Society

03 Apr 2014 14:02 #11 by FredHayek
Anyone ever notice the Left is losing the ability to debate reasonably?
No wonder they shout down conservative speakers on campus rather than argue against their ideas.
They remind me of fundamentalists who were told the way the world is but never questioned what they were told. #unexaminedviews

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Apr 2014 14:09 #12 by JMC

FredHayek wrote: Anyone ever notice the Left is losing the ability to debate reasonably?
No wonder they shout down conservative speakers on campus rather than argue against their ideas.
They remind me of fundamentalists who were told the way the world is but never questioned what they were told. #unexaminedviews

Fred, we get tired of your right wing false truths. Live in your world if you want. The rest of us live in reality.
sorry you are not smart enough to get it.
To the rest of you parrot folks, keep saying the same thing and mabe someday it will come true. I am amazed at your wishful thinking.

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03 Apr 2014 14:11 #13 by FredHayek
You really do live up to your name. You can't even point out an example of what you accuse me of.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Apr 2014 14:17 #14 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: Anyone ever notice the Left is losing the ability to debate reasonably?
No wonder they shout down conservative speakers on campus rather than argue against their ideas.
They remind me of fundamentalists who were told the way the world is but never questioned what they were told. #unexaminedviews


As predicted.

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04 ... qus_thread

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03 Apr 2014 14:19 #15 by Blazer Bob
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80483.html

"By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 8/30/12 8:09 PM EST Updated: 8/31/12 9:13 AM EST
TAMPA, Fla. – Billionaire industrialist David Koch, who is helping steer millions of dollars to elect Mitt Romney and congressional Republicans, on Thursday told POLITICO he disagrees with the GOP’s stance on gay marriage and believes the U.S. needs to consider raising taxes to balance the budget.

Koch, who is serving as a delegate to the Republican National Convention from New York, spoke to POLITICO after delivering brief remarks at a reception held in his honor by Americans for Prosperity, the political advocacy group he chairs and has helped fund.

The 1980 vice presidential nominee for the socially liberal — but fiscally conservative — Libertarian Party, Koch told POLITICO “I believe in gay marriage” when asked about the GOP’s stance on gay rights."...



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/08 ... z2xrALH2ue

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03 Apr 2014 14:37 #16 by FredHayek
I wouldn't call the Libertarian Party socially liberal, more like socially libertarian.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Apr 2014 14:40 #17 by FredHayek

fly off the handle wrote: Bob is a parrot, he just repeats whatever his corporate masters tell him to say.

Like you were told Charles Koch is evil so you have to hate him?
Have you even read his bio?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Apr 2014 15:02 #18 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: I wouldn't call the Libertarian Party socially liberal, more like socially libertarian.


What is the difference?

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03 Apr 2014 15:06 #19 by FredHayek
To me at least, socially libertarians doesn't care if a person is trangendered and thinks they shouldn't be discriminated against. A social liberal thinks taxpayers should pay for the surgery.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Apr 2014 15:21 #20 by PrintSmith

BlazerBob wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I wouldn't call the Libertarian Party socially liberal, more like socially libertarian.


What is the difference?

Indeed - the definition of a liberal is one who believes the sole legitimate purpose of government is the protection of individual rights. Those with an opposing view have attempted to hijack the name and "redefine" it to mean what they want it to mean (think "assault weapon" to describe a semi-automatic firearm based on its cosmetics or "high capacity" magazine to describe a standard capacity one) in an attempt to portray their efforts as something that they are not.

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