$6 billion missing from State Department

07 Apr 2014 10:56 #11 by FredHayek
"unpaid for wars"
Since 1/4 of the money spent every year in the federal budget isn't there, should we also call it "unpaid for Social Security", "unpaid for Obama family vacations", "unpaid for State Department budget"?

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07 Apr 2014 11:23 #12 by LadyJazzer
Social Security is paid-for
Presidential family vacations are budgeted for, as they have been for ALL presidents.
State Department is budgeted for.

You're lying again, Fred. Imagine my surprise...

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07 Apr 2014 11:54 #13 by FredHayek
LJ,
We haven't had an actual budget for years, just continuing resolutions. Keep up.

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07 Apr 2014 14:57 #14 by LadyJazzer
Things that are essential in the budget do not need to be rebudgeted year after year.. SPECIFICALLY Social Security is NOT in the budget bill, because it's already paid for.

You try to keep up. Go sell your teabagger talking-points crap somewhere else.

FredHayek wrote: We haven't had an actual budget for years


House passes $1.1-trillion budget bill
The Republican-controlled House approved the bill Wednesday, setting up 10-month truce in budget battles between Congressional Democrats and Republicans.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Wednesday, January 15, 2014, 4:36 PM

Oh my?!?!?! You're a liar ... again.

You want to tell us again how "tens of millions lost their insurance"??? That's always good for a laugh...

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07 Apr 2014 15:11 #15 by FredHayek
Next time look up the difference between a continuing resolution and an actual budget before you expose your ignorance again.

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07 Apr 2014 15:14 #16 by LadyJazzer
Y'know, I don't see the words "continuing resolution" in that article at all...

So, it must be time for that standard Fred "change the subject"/"move the goalposts"/"They did it too"/ "got-to-have-the-last-word" brilliance...

You got it, liar.

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07 Apr 2014 15:17 #17 by FredHayek
OK, I stand corrected. LJ has said we have passed a budget and not a continuing resolution.

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07 Apr 2014 16:23 #18 by PrintSmith

LadyJazzer wrote: Social Security is paid-for
Presidential family vacations are budgeted for, as they have been for ALL presidents.
State Department is budgeted for.

You're lying again, Fred. Imagine my surprise...

You are lying again Jazzer - imagine our collective surprise. Social Security and Medicare are annual tax levies and an annual appropriation of the revenues that result from those tax levies. That was the ruling of the Supreme Court, the one that Roosevelt and the "New Dealers" threatened to pack with true believers if the court kept following the Constitution.

And it is not "paid for", it is part of the annual federal budget and must have funds appropriated from the general treasury, which is where the taxes are paid, on an annual basis.

The other reality, decided by the Supreme Court in Flemming v Nestor, is that you have no contract with the federal government that requires them to pay you a single penny in benefits under the Social Security scheme, precisely because it is a pay as you go government program, as the Supreme Court stated it was in Helvering v Davis. Congress may end the program at any time of its choosing and there is not a single court in the land that would entertain an argument that Congress must provide benefits to those who paid taxes for all of their working years. Those tax revenues are collected and spent in the same year, always have been. Currently the only thing keeping the program solvent is the payment of interest on the bonds, the IOUs that the government has written to itself, that it must borrow money in order to pay by the way. There is insufficient tax revenue, despite the fact that the tax has risen by 72% and the amount of income subject to being taxed has been raised by almost 300%, adjusted for inflation, to provide for the annual appropriations made for the program by Congress.

That is why, unless taxes are raised yet again to support the Ponzi based scheme, the individual subsidies provided by the annual appropriations of Congress will be reduced to around 70% of what they are today. And do you know why Congress will be able to reduce benefits to 70% of what they are today? It is an annual appropriation of Congress, from the general treasury of the United States, that's why.

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07 Apr 2014 18:31 #19 by LOL
Any updates on the missing $6B ? :)

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07 Apr 2014 19:28 #20 by MamaRama
It went to Hillary's buddies so they would keep their mouths shut about Benghazi.

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