Global Warming Scare Tactics

10 Apr 2014 09:04 #1 by Blazer Bob
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/09/opini ... ctics.html

"OAKLAND, Calif. — IF you were looking for ways to increase public skepticism about global warming, you could hardly do better than the forthcoming nine-part series on climate change and natural disasters, starting this Sunday on Showtime. A trailer for “Years of Living Dangerously” is terrifying, replete with images of melting glaciers, raging wildfires and rampaging floods. “I don’t think scary is the right word,” intones one voice. “Dangerous, definitely.”

Showtime’s producers undoubtedly have the best of intentions. "...

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18 May 2014 21:20 #2 by Blazer Bob

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18 May 2014 22:29 #3 by ScienceChic
I'll see your graphic and raise you two, plus a video collection! :biggrin:


Global Surface Temperature: Going Down the Up Escalator, Part 1 : http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
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Going Down the Up Escalator, Part 2 : http://www.skepticalscience.com/going-d ... art-2.html
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Still Going Down the Up Escalator : http://skepticalscience.com/still-going ... lator.html
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TED Video: 4 animations that show what’s really going on with our climate
Helen Walters
5.2.14

TED Talks:
Gavin Schmidt: The emergent patterns of climate change
http://www.ted.com/talks/gavin_schmidt_ ... ate_change
TED2014 · 12:10 · Filmed Mar 2014

That graph that you posted above looks like it came from Dr. Roy Spencer, which he re-posted recently (Feb 7th http://archive.today/qlqA8 ) after initially posting it Feb 16, 2013 http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/04/glo ... rom-space/ . Here's the problem with Spencer - he manipulates his graphs in an unethical manner to show the results he wants, not reality.

Wanna see exactly how and what he did - check it out here. http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/02/roy- ... ption.html He's a piss-poor excuse of a scientist who can't be trusted at all.

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18 May 2014 22:52 #4 by otisptoadwater


Occam's razor applies more often than not...

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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18 May 2014 23:04 - 24 Nov 2014 11:28 #5 by Blazer Bob
As a scientist you should know that bull sh** piled higher and deeper is still bull sh**.

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18 May 2014 23:17 - 24 Nov 2014 11:27 #6 by ScienceChic
Yeah, I saw the article Hinderaker posted today in his Powerlineblog. He's just repeating the same stuff from others that's already debunked (see previous post with links). Any paragraph that starts out with this sentence

The catastrophic anthropogenic global warming theory is based entirely on models,

is full of it b/c that's absolutely not true.

BlazerBob wrote: As a scientist you should know that bull sh** piled higher and deeper is still bull sh**.

The same applies to those who continue to deny the facts and blatantly misrepresent the truth in order to maintain the status quo of lining their cushy pockets at the expense of the world. When the goal posts have to keep getting moved that's when you know you're being fed a line of crap. First it was "there is no global warming, we need to study it more to be sure" to "there's global warming but it's not our fault" to "there's global warming and we have a small part in it, but it won't be as bad as the 'alarmists' claim, actually it'll be beneficial for plants" to "there's global warming and we're directly influencing it, but drastically doing anything to stop it will severely damage our economy". Nothing the deniers have argued has had valid merit, they've come up with no credible counter-claims backed by observation and repeatable experimentation, they've modified their positions when the evidence was so overwhelming as to be embarrassing, and they continue to bleat the last few misconceptions that they can to avoid a reality that climate scientists have been accurately and consistently predicting.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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18 May 2014 23:25 #7 by Blazer Bob

ScienceChic wrote: Yeah, I saw the article Hinderaker posted today in his Powerlineblog. He's just repeating the same stuff from others that's already debunked (see previous post with links). Any paragraph that starts out with this sentence

The catastrophic anthropogenic global warming theory is based entirely on models,

is full of it b/c that's absolutely not true.

BlazerBob wrote: As a scientist you should know that bull sh** piled higher and deeper is still bull sh**.

The same applies to those who continue to deny the facts and blatantly misrepresent the truth in order to maintain the status quo of lining their cushy pockets at the expense of the world. When the goal posts have to keep getting moved that's when you know you're being fed a line of crap. First it was "there is no global warming, we need to study it more to be sure" to "there's global warming but it's not our fault" to "there's global warming and we have a small part in it, but it won't be as bad as the 'alarmists' claim, actually it'll be beneficial for plants" to "there's global warming and we're directly influencing it, but drastically doing anything to stop it will severely damage our economy". Nothing the deniers have argued has had valid merit, they've come up with no credible counter-claims backed by observation and repeatable experimentation, they've modified their positions when the evidence was so overwhelming as to be embarrassing, and they continue to bleat the last few misconceptions that they can to avoid a reality that climate scientists have been accurately and consistently predicting.


Who's cushie pockets are being lined and what accurate and consistent predictions are coming true?

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18 May 2014 23:39 #8 by otisptoadwater
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I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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19 May 2014 06:46 #9 by OmniScience

ScienceChic wrote: Here's the problem with Spencer - he manipulates his graphs in an unethical manner to show the results he wants, not reality.


Sounds like the IPCC. They manipulate their data and their models are still wrong. But, that's ok, as long as the $100 billion/year European carbon scam moves along on its merry way, all is good.

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19 May 2014 07:26 #10 by FredHayek
It can be awful hard to predict the future, especially fifty years ahead. So many variables, especially when you consider technology.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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