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Condoleeza Rice withdraws
11 May 2014 14:37 #42
by ScienceChic
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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As LJ said, there's a difference between boorish behavior and infringement on freedom of speech/1st Amendment rights. It's not polite, and shouldn't be acceptable, for rude interruptions by anyone and no one group does it exclusively (I just watched a video of CNN anchors [a white woman and a black man to be specific] and another guest [a white man from the Heritage Institute] continually interrupting Bill Nye [a white man] whom they had on as a guest discussing global warming - it disgusted me how that interview went, but that doesn't mean I think all cable anchors are like that, that all conservatives/liberals/whites/blacks/women/men are like that, or that because those people did it that it means that any of you who post here agree with their action and would do it yourselves).
I was at a Tea Party meeting not long ago where they had several political candidates speaking and several of them stood in the back and talked to each other throughout the entire meeting which I found incredibly rude and inconsiderate (not to mention annoying that it f'ed up my video), but I don't go assuming that all conservative political candidates are like that because I've met several others who I've not seen do that after multiple meetings they've attended. I've also watched the videos of the Jeffco School Board meetings, and I think the public that attends who are angry at the conservative board members get rude too.
So can we please move on from the "teabaggers do it" "so do liberal Obamabots"?
That you guys continue to think that LJ will point it out on the other side is either naive ignorance, or feigned outrage; that you think she'll come around and agree with you when you point out her side does it, is the same. Either you really like having these same types of conversations on all the local boards, or you're running out of things to talk about.
Maybe if we took this message below to heart, really and truly, and not take things personally that aren't meant personally, we could have some better conversations other than he did it/she did it/they did it too.
Someone's lifestyle, or politics, or personal opinions - it's all the same. As one person replied on this photo, you can disagree without being disagreeable.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
I was at a Tea Party meeting not long ago where they had several political candidates speaking and several of them stood in the back and talked to each other throughout the entire meeting which I found incredibly rude and inconsiderate (not to mention annoying that it f'ed up my video), but I don't go assuming that all conservative political candidates are like that because I've met several others who I've not seen do that after multiple meetings they've attended. I've also watched the videos of the Jeffco School Board meetings, and I think the public that attends who are angry at the conservative board members get rude too.
So can we please move on from the "teabaggers do it" "so do liberal Obamabots"?
That you guys continue to think that LJ will point it out on the other side is either naive ignorance, or feigned outrage; that you think she'll come around and agree with you when you point out her side does it, is the same. Either you really like having these same types of conversations on all the local boards, or you're running out of things to talk about.
Maybe if we took this message below to heart, really and truly, and not take things personally that aren't meant personally, we could have some better conversations other than he did it/she did it/they did it too.
Someone's lifestyle, or politics, or personal opinions - it's all the same. As one person replied on this photo, you can disagree without being disagreeable.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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12 May 2014 07:41 #48
by PrintSmith
But I have a question SC. If I were to use a label like queer or fa**ots to describe the opposition, would that not be relegated to the Ring because a homosexual slur was being used? Given that, why are other homosexual slurs allowed to be used without being migrated? And what would be the fallout from the rest of the members? Would anyone stand behind me if I continually used a homosexual slur as someone on this board does? Would my posts be allowed to remain in this forum if I continually exhibited such behavior? Is there any less bigotry evidenced by the continual use of such a slur regardless of which group is being targeted? Does that mean it's OK for me to use ni**er in the forum as long as I'm not talking about a black person?
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Jefferson remarked on this in a letter to Richard Johnson in 1808. He wrote, ""It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions."ScienceChic wrote: So can we please move on from the "teabaggers do it" "so do liberal Obamabots"?
That you guys continue to think that LJ will point it out on the other side is either naive ignorance, or feigned outrage; that you think she'll come around and agree with you when you point out her side does it, is the same. Either you really like having these same types of conversations on all the local boards, or you're running out of things to talk about.
Maybe if we took this message below to heart, really and truly, and not take things personally that aren't meant personally, we could have some better conversations other than he did it/she did it/they did it too.
Someone's lifestyle, or politics, or personal opinions - it's all the same. As one person replied on this photo, you can disagree without being disagreeable.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
But I have a question SC. If I were to use a label like queer or fa**ots to describe the opposition, would that not be relegated to the Ring because a homosexual slur was being used? Given that, why are other homosexual slurs allowed to be used without being migrated? And what would be the fallout from the rest of the members? Would anyone stand behind me if I continually used a homosexual slur as someone on this board does? Would my posts be allowed to remain in this forum if I continually exhibited such behavior? Is there any less bigotry evidenced by the continual use of such a slur regardless of which group is being targeted? Does that mean it's OK for me to use ni**er in the forum as long as I'm not talking about a black person?
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