OmniScience wrote: On a more pragmatic note....Men have always gotten screwed in a divorce. What happens now?
She/He who makes the most money will pay.Since the female gender does not have parity...generally
THAT is the male.(=highest wage earner)
Actually, homey, that was a rhetorical question. Anyway, I heard a comedian say they were all for gay marriage, "I think it's funny that homos will now get to be as miserable as those who are married". As a devout bachelor, who cherishes independence and freedom, I couldn't agree more, and others seem to be catching on. Those who are married are now in the minority in this country. The way I’ve always looked at it is 50+% of marriages fail, so I have about a 50% chance of getting financially hosed. Never liked those odds. I've known far too many people who were unhappy or felt trapped in a marriage. I'd rather go through life wanting what I don't have than having what I don't want.
Yep, same-sex marriage is finally approved only after it has fallen out of fashion. Largest number ever of single person households.
PS, good point about theocracies, but probably almost as many common law marriages back then as church weddings.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
OmniScience wrote: On a more pragmatic note....Men have always gotten screwed in a divorce. What happens now?
She/He who makes the most money will pay.Since the female gender does not have parity...generally
THAT is the male.(=highest wage earner)
Actually, homey, that was a rhetorical question. Anyway, I heard a comedian say they were all for gay marriage, "I think it's funny that homos will now get to be as miserable as those who are married". As a devout bachelor, who cherishes independence and freedom, I couldn't agree more, and others seem to be catching on. Those who are married are now in the minority in this country. The way I’ve always looked at it is 50+% of marriages fail, so I have about a 50% chance of getting financially hosed. Never liked those odds. I've known far too many people who were unhappy or felt trapped in a marriage. I'd rather go through life wanting what I don't have than having what I don't want.
The bolded is VERY important to me...the trick is to find the RIGHT person who "gets you"....and the
idea of freedom and independence. My M.O. is NOT main stream, I elected NOT to have children(at 26Y.O.)
Marriage with the white picket fence and 2.5 children and a dog was NOT in my top 5 things to do.
I would NOT have gotten married (23 years ago),but my DH KNEW that his Mom would have a cow and make things hard for me if we were not married. I am beyond luck that my spouse views life as I do and we understand each other(of course, there is that LITTLE problem with women are from venus and men from Mars pov)
I VALUE his thoughtfulness and his ability to allow me to be me...and I afford him the same. He is much
more conservative and I am much more eccentric,so I guess opposites DO attract...the point to this topic is this..if we were gay and our relationship was classified as "illegal" it would be devastating. There is NO logic to that and it is wrong. This has NOTHING to do with religion (I will state that again)and everything to do with allowing two people in love to enjoy the same rights as a "straight" union.
Possible negative side effect for liberal causes? With same sex marriage mostly legal will that base be as likely to donate and volunteer politically? Gill says it won't but who knows?
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Home - My sincerest congrats on finding someone with whom you can have a prosperous long-term relationship. That is unfortunately becoming far too rare. I too, elected not to have children which is one of the reasons I did not get married in my 20's. But, I still feel that redefining marriage is a bad idea as is same-sex couples raising children - I've seen the major problems from that scenario through my girlfriends sister. A very sad situation.
But, what will be really interesting to me is how far gay "rights" will go. They have special legal protections in society and in the workplace, have forced their views into the education system, and now have redefined marriage. What is next?
REdefining marriage is not just a "gay" issue....the institution of marriage has been going thru MANY
tumultuous trends over the past two decades...the "straight" status of marriage has done some re-tooling
I am old enough and "eclectic" enough to see the overview of the institution.
I do NOT cook, unless salads,sourdough bread,fruit and cheese boards are a "cooking" menu. My DH cooks and I clean...when we first started dating THAT was a known and it was agreed upon thereafter.
I did NOT want children, again that was an agreed upon decision.
I have always dated younger men,much like Cher, men my age don't "get me".My DH is 8 years younger
than me and when we got married we realized that we will probably "kick the bucket" together,maybe a
year apart....because women live on average 8 years more than men.
I do NOT expect my DH to tell me what to do,and I afford him the SAME.(freedom,independence)
We DO expect fidelity and decided along time ago divorce is not an option. (maybe murder,tho)
You Don't Cook??????? What's wrong with you???????
Seriously, I love cooking, so many great foods to experiment with and enjoy. You're missing out!
I recently came up with a "Greek Taco" type of thing which was basically ground lamb, red onions, peppers, lettuce, salsa, and feta in a lightly toasted Pita/tortilla. It was easy and awesome
OmniScience wrote: You Don't Cook??????? What's wrong with you???????
Seriously, I love cooking, so many great foods to experiment with and enjoy. You're missing out!
I recently came up with a "Greek Taco" type of thing which was basically ground lamb, red onions, peppers, lettuce, salsa, and feta in a lightly toasted Pita/tortilla. It was easy and awesome
Now that sounds good. There's a place on W Colfax called Hits the Spot Dinner than is only open for breakfast and lunch. They have a Greek breakfast burrito made with gyro meat, agreat green chile, and feta over the top. Best $9.25 I ever spend.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
homeagain wrote: REdefining marriage is not just a "gay" issue....the institution of marriage has been going thru MANY
tumultuous trends over the past two decades...the "straight" status of marriage has done some re-tooling
I am old enough and "eclectic" enough to see the overview of the institution.
You are still seeking to speak to this issue in a spiritual sense home, and that is not the point of the statists agenda here. FWIW I have agreed that the government has no business defining what is and what is not a marriage. Marriage is, has been, and always will be, a spiritual bond, not a legal one. That is precisely the reason the government has no business in deciding who is and who is not married. When the spiritual bond is broken, so too is the marriage itself.
No, what the statists seek to do here is to once again attempt to separate the people from their religion and substitute the central government in its place, to establish that government is the ultimate authority in the universe. Whether or not two (soon to be more) are bound together in the eye of their Creator is simply something the government is incapable of commenting on, all the government can comment on is whether or not their property is equally shared between them. That is the sole role of government in this iissue.
Are our rights protected "by" the government or are our rights protected "from" the government as declared by the Constitution?
I say that our rights are protected "from" the government which means that the courts have no legal reason to even consider whether or not gay marriage is guaranteed. The Constitution does not give them the ability to decide such things.
You may not like it but that is the limitation put upon government by our Constitution.
