Jon Stewart realized Koch Industries was running ads during his show...

Rick wrote: I don't bellive that is a premise, I believe that statement is a fact. Throughout the life of every child going through public school, they are much more likely to get a liberal indoctrination than they are a conservative or even a balanced ideology. Then they go to college and it only gets worse. It's not until they venture into the real world (especially if they start a business), that they realize the government is not there to incentivize their success, but more likely to impede it.

Rick wrote: It's not until they venture into the real world (especially if they start a business), that they realize the government is not there to incentivize their success, but more likely to impede it.

ScienceChic wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote: Well if you look at the stats, younger voters are more likely to be Democrats/liberals, and when they grow up and understand how the world really operates, they become more conservative. I think it's more rare to be a young conservative and one day "see the light" and become a liberal. Since most kids are taught by liberals in school, it only makes sense.

On what, exactly, do you base your premise that "most kids are taught by liberals in school"?

I don't bellive that is a premise, I believe that statement is a fact. Throughout the life of every child going through public school, they are much more likely to get a liberal indoctrination than they are a conservative or even a balanced ideology. Then they go to college and it only gets worse. It's not until they venture into the real world (especially if they start a business), that they realize the government is not there to incentivize their success, but more likely to impede it.

I have trouble believing generalities like this. I grew up in one of the most conservative cities in the US - a place where you can't even buy girlie magazines in person in any store anywhere in county limits, and I struggle imagining that every one of the few liberals around was a teacher in all of the schools (my high school alone had 2,000 students, we had 8 elementaries, 3 middle schools, and 2 high schools in our district - it's not like these were small school districts). I was raised by a very conservative family, I registered as, and voted, Republican, in my earliest elections throughout college. Once I got to the end of my college career, that's when I switched and registered as, and started voting, Democrat. I wasn't "indoctrinated" in grade school-high school by liberal teachers or "liberal" teaching of subject matter, and the friends I still keep in touch with from my youngest years run the gamut of hard-core conservative to outright gay liberals and everything in between that can't be put in a box.

I just think that younger kids are generally more tolerant of things that we aren't, just as we are more tolerant of things our parents weren't. It's a continual process - when this nation started, it was unthinkable that women and blacks should have the right to vote, now some claim it's a God-given right. In a few more decades, this controversy over gay marriage will seem just as "given".

Nor have I changed how I feel since owning a business. I refuse to believe that I am so unique in that I hold dear beliefs of both political ideals - I think there's way too much labeling, assuming, and stereotyping that goes on.