Federal grants to pay off federal loans . . .

13 Nov 2014 12:26 #61 by PrintSmith
Why do I have trouble believing that 97.72% of the $34.2 Billion in capital has been repaid in its entirety plus $810 million in interest as of the time NPR "reported" the story? Noticeably absent from the "reporting" is how much of the principle has been repaid in addition to the $810 million in interest. Might there be a reason that pertinent detail is nowhere to be found?

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13 Nov 2014 13:04 - 13 Nov 2014 13:05 #62 by PrintSmith
One of those questions that just keeps you up at night. If the funds used to pay back these $34.2 Billion in loans comes from federal grants, has the money really been paid back or has the program cost the taxpayers $68.4 Billion instead of $34.2?

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13 Nov 2014 16:47 #63 by ZHawke

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14 Nov 2014 05:59 - 14 Nov 2014 11:46 #64 by PrintSmith
Thanks Z - looks like about 16% of the principle has been paid back thus far and at least some of the loans have 20+ years left to pay back the principle owed. Question remains, if the loan is "paid back" with federal subsidies, actual subsidies, not tax exemptions and tax credits, but actual subsidies such as federal grants, has the loan actually be "repaid" or would the term "bailout" be more appropriate?

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16 Nov 2014 10:46 #65 by ZHawke
An absolutely fascinating read: truth-out.org/news/item/27392-abundant-c...newables-think-again

Reliance on fossil fuels needs to end, but there are pitfalls with renewables that some probably don't even know about.

Sustainability is not an easy fix, especially given the consumer mentality when it comes to energy use from what I saw in this article.

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16 Nov 2014 14:13 #66 by PrintSmith
Ahhh yes, the "low energy" society, collectivist code for lower standard of living for everyone. More energy than that is only required for such mundane things as economic growth to sustain the ever growing human population, but other than that, we really don't need it.

I think the author listened to Lennon's "Imagine" one (hundred or so) too many times . . .

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