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Joe doesn't matter, it's Warren who is the key and set to be the "first". Biden will just finish out Obama policies and protect his executive orders, all the while Warren will be very outspoken and will basically be campaigning and making her case for pres for the next four years. As for debates, how can he do any worse than Hillary?ScienceChic wrote: I can see that scenario of the Dems moving to him vs Hilary, I just can't see Biden getting past his reputation of being a dumbass, tactless goof. There is way too much ammo out there of his public gaffes, he'd get hammered on social media. Unless he gets magical business coaching there's no fixing his personality, presentation skills, or lack of brain-mouth filter. Can you imagine him in a debate?
Wait, that might be kinda fun.
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I agree with you here, Bernie is like the Trump of the left, only quiet and not willing to fight the same side. He has some good populist talking points that will attract those who don't understand economics, but I just don't see him getting the Dem nomination (maybe if he gets Warren for VP and promises just a one term presidency). I do like Bernie though because I believe he speaks from the heart and not from polls or special interests like Hillary.ScienceChic wrote: As for Sanders, I think people are caring less and less about labels. His message resonates with the lower and middle class that's been hurting and growing increasingly angry about the growing social inequality and lack of fair opportunity to earn a decent living without working themselves to death. There are more Unaffiliated voters every year and there's a reason for that; an Independent candidate is finally making huge waves - don't dismiss him too soon.
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Well, it looks like I'm going to be giving my source a good beating and possibly end up in jail for assault.Rick wrote: That's right, that is your Dem ticket and it's already been decided by Obama. Here's why:
1. Hillary is about as likable as a ghost pepper shart (lets be honest).
2. Hillary is about as honest as her husband but her body language makes her as believable as the Iranians saying they won't build a nuke. Hillary's need to be secretive was her own undoing, she's done.
3.Biden on the other hand is likable... he's a crazy gaffe machine that enjoys touching women to the point of almost being creepy, but he's still far more likable than Hillary.
4. Biden will only run for one year so that the Dems can get another "first" in 2020, a Cherokee woman.
5. Everybody knows Warren is who the Dems really wanted and Bernie is just keeping her message alive in case the liar inevitably falls.
6. Obama can't stand the Clintons and with Biden running, he can allow the DOJ and CIA to do their jobs and actually find and reveal the truth.
7. Obama's legacy it top priority and Biden is the perfect man to continue it.
8. I'm rarely ever wrong, trust me
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You really should stop listening to VL.Rick wrote: Well, it looks like I'm going to be giving my source a good beating and possibly end up in jail for assault.
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Yeah, I do tend to mock his stupidity at times.ScienceChic wrote:
You really should stop listening to VL.Rick wrote: Well, it looks like I'm going to be giving my source a good beating and possibly end up in jail for assault.
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