CLIFF NOTES to a crisis

31 Mar 2020 09:57 #11 by FredHayek
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It was just amazing to see how fast Americans obediently gave up their personal freedoms as their right to assemble was taken away as well as their livelihood as more businesses closed.
More states are bringing back prohibition. Nationwide Prohibition first passed with a constitutional amendment, but now it is being reinstated state by state, often not by legislators but by governors because the legislatures are not in session. I really thought there would be more pushback, but the majority of Americans just go along.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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31 Mar 2020 10:18 #12 by HEARTLESS
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Would a President that wanted to take away rights, mandate gun shops remain open?

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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31 Mar 2020 11:12 #13 by homeagain
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It's the REAL Boston Tea Party.......ready,willing and able

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31 Mar 2020 13:28 - 31 Mar 2020 13:29 #14 by ScienceChic
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During the 1918 Flu Pandemic these same measures were put in place in order to slow/stop the spread of the disease outbreak. I'm not saying in any way that anyone here is over-reacting (far from it, actually), but I am seeing cray cray conspiracy theorists talking on other social media sites about our Constitutional rights being trampled, martial law coming soon, yada yada yada. It's silly and preposterous, our rights weren't restricted after it ended, and the country eventually recovered. It does provide a valuable lesson in comparing how that went vs today - those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it and all that.

Americans were again asked in WWII to sacrifice for the greater good of the country. We have now had more Americans die from this coronavirus than died in the 9/11 attacks. The numbers Dr. Fauci stated in his interview with Jake Tapper is twice the number who died in the Vietnam War, and if we hadn't implemented any measures, Fauci said we could have more deaths than all wars we fought in combined. It should be a sobering thought that motivates us all to do our part and come together to help one another.

Yes, this is going to hurt the economy, but consider what 2 million deaths will do to it? Do you truly think the economy will come out better if we don't keep isolation procedures in place? The loss of any unique life being immeasurable, and not to minimize it in any way, what will be the impact on the economy if that many workers/business owners/nonprofit leaders die? Consider all of the downstream ramifications.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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31 Mar 2020 16:00 #15 by Pony Soldier
I guess we'll see. Sweden will tell the tale.

www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/sweden-coronavir...-rest-of-europe.html

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04 Apr 2020 10:21 #16 by Blazer Bob
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It is easy to be a back seat driver and a Monday morning quarterback.

Citizenship in a Republic is the title of a speech given by the former President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, at the Sorbonne in Paris, France on April 23, 1910.[1]

One notable passage on page seven of the 35-page speech is referred to as "The Man in the Arena":[2][3]

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

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04 Apr 2020 13:29 #17 by homeagain
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homeagain wrote: www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-c...urity-council-149285

READ THE 69 PAGES OFFICIAL DOC....be informed or be a mushroom.....


THIS is the reason the king is NOT all those kind and glorious words of wisdom, words of
courage and bravery, words of leadership that is fallible,but faithful,words of truth and trust....THOSE are NOT the person who holds the HIGHEST position of this country.....

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05 Apr 2020 13:00 #18 by FredHayek
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Pony Soldier wrote: I guess we'll see. Sweden will tell the tale.

www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/sweden-coronavir...-rest-of-europe.html


Iceland also took a different course on this disease. They increased testing, quarantined the vulnerable, rather than locked down the entire nation. Iceland is a small nation, only 350,000 people so this is probably easy to do. Also being an island makes it easier to close the borders.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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