State status in STABLIZING virus

25 Jun 2020 07:47 #21 by HEARTLESS
Never stated the virus wasn't real. But fear porn is the purpose of all the media coverage and false numbers being reported. Can't keep the sheeple at home unless they are scared.

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25 Jun 2020 08:44 #22 by homeagain

HEARTLESS wrote: Never stated the virus wasn't real. But fear porn is the purpose of all the media coverage and false numbers being reported. Can't keep the sheeple at home unless they are scared.



I believe U should be on several MEDICAL SITES and compare what those on ground zero are posting,
their experiences and observations in real time...a DIFFERENT picture emerges,I am assuming U have
NO personal experience with this (no relatives,friends,casual acquaintances or personal health problems that would put U at hi risk)....the level of understanding seems to be lacking....WHEN it hits your life,perhaps
U might see things from a different perspective.

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25 Jun 2020 09:12 #23 by HEARTLESS

homeagain wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Never stated the virus wasn't real. But fear porn is the purpose of all the media coverage and false numbers being reported. Can't keep the sheeple at home unless they are scared.



I believe U should be on several MEDICAL SITES and compare what those on ground zero are posting,
their experiences and observations in real time...a DIFFERENT picture emerges,I am assuming U have
NO personal experience with this (no relatives,friends,casual acquaintances or personal health problems that would put U at hi risk)....the level of understanding seems to be lacking....WHEN it hits your life,perhaps
U might see things from a different perspective.

You never seem to think I can remember things like all the Dem Governors and Mayors putting elderly back in nursing homes that aren't prepared to handle isolation and appropriate medical care and the resulting astronomical death rates that followed. You don't think I remember the media falsifying drive up testing for the rona. There are many things but you don't seem to want to follow anything but "the king is bad" ad nauseum.

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25 Jun 2020 09:25 #24 by homeagain

HEARTLESS wrote:

homeagain wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Never stated the virus wasn't real. But fear porn is the purpose of all the media coverage and false numbers being reported. Can't keep the sheeple at home unless they are scared.



I believe U should be on several MEDICAL SITES and compare what those on ground zero are posting,
their experiences and observations in real time...a DIFFERENT picture emerges,I am assuming U have
NO personal experience with this (no relatives,friends,casual acquaintances or personal health problems that would put U at hi risk)....the level of understanding seems to be lacking....WHEN it hits your life,perhaps
U might see things from a different perspective.

You never seem to think I can remember things like all the Dem Governors and Mayors putting elderly back in nursing homes that aren't prepared to handle isolation and appropriate medical care and the resulting astronomical death rates that followed. You don't think I remember the media falsifying drive up testing for the rona. There are many things but you don't seem to want to follow anything but "the king is bad" ad nauseum.

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25 Jun 2020 09:36 #25 by homeagain
THE REAL problem U see is the wholesale failure of a medical system that was present all along,except
NO ONE was caring.or payed attention. THIS IS A BI PARTISAN FAILURE, hospitals were pushing patients
out into the streets in the middle of the nite,because of mental problems or homelessness. THAT IS
DOCUMENTED, and so wrong on so many levels...and it was ALLOWED, no laws, just turning of a blind eye.

THE DEPTH of our nations problems are NOW front and center and can NO LONGER be ignored.THAT
is where we are both coming from.....just from different angles.

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27 Jun 2020 10:40 #26 by FredHayek

homeagain wrote: I'm sorry...I do NOT see this virus as invalid or a ruse....when U have radical climate change(100 DEGREES)
IN A SIBERIAN VILLAGE (in the Arctic circle), and the permafrost is no longer permanent because it has melted, WHAT do u believe could be the result? EXPOSED ancient bacteria,prehistoric animal carcasses
that WERE frozen,but now are thawing and with that thawing a release of whatever disease,virus,bacteria,
the animal had. THAT is why this virus has occurred,we have clear cut ancient forest canopies and
animals habitat that WERE untouched and whole. WELCOME to wholesale destruction of species and
space.

You think Spanish Influenza was caused because of the permafrost melting too?

Pandemics happen for a lot of different reasons. It used to be they traveled much slower around the world or petered out quickly because travel was very limited two hundred years ago, but right now we have a coronavirus that is hard to fight for a bunch of different reasons. One, it is easily transferable, it is so small, it can easily slip through normal cotton masks. Two, it is asymptomatic for a large percentage of the population, so health departments don't easily know who has it. It is very deadly for seniors and those who have immunity challenges or breathing issues. A perfect storm of a virus. Luckily it does look very survivable for most Americans. As more antibody tests are taken, it looks like the death rate has fallen below one percent. And we are actually lucky to have a good capitalist health system that had built in overcapacity. Poor Yemen, their current death rate is 25%!
I think these points are more important than a few species dying off.

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27 Jun 2020 13:19 - 27 Jun 2020 13:21 #27 by homeagain

FredHayek wrote:

homeagain wrote: I'm sorry...I do NOT see this virus as invalid or a ruse....when U have radical climate change(100 DEGREES)
IN A SIBERIAN VILLAGE (in the Arctic circle), and the permafrost is no longer permanent because it has melted, WHAT do u believe could be the result? EXPOSED ancient bacteria,prehistoric animal carcasses
that WERE frozen,but now are thawing and with that thawing a release of whatever disease,virus,bacteria,
the animal had. THAT is why this virus has occurred,we have clear cut ancient forest canopies and
animals habitat that WERE untouched and whole. WELCOME to wholesale destruction of species and
space.

You think Spanish Influenza was caused because of the permafrost melting too?

Pandemics happen for a lot of different reasons. It used to be they traveled much slower around the world or petered out quickly because travel was very limited two hundred years ago, but right now we have a coronavirus that is hard to fight for a bunch of different reasons. One, it is easily transferable, it is so small, it can easily slip through normal cotton masks. Two, it is asymptomatic for a large percentage of the population, so health departments don't easily know who has it. It is very deadly for seniors and those who have immunity challenges or breathing issues. A perfect storm of a virus. Luckily it does look very survivable for most Americans. As more antibody tests are taken, it looks like the death rate has fallen below one percent. And we are actually lucky to have a good capitalist health system that had built in overcapacity. Poor Yemen, their current death rate is 25%!
I think these points are more important than a few species dying off.


www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/scientists...s-caused-by-covid-19

NEW INFORMATION that should replace your understanding of the impact on healthcare and on
humans...the YOUNG are now hi risk, because of their cavalier outlook...THEN they pass it to
older family members...a LONG TERM problem that has NO solution yet.

THE Spanish flu was at the turn of the century when medicine was in it's infancy and CLEAN, STERILE
CONDITIONS WERE NOT THE NORM.

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29 Jun 2020 14:11 #28 by FredHayek
Time for generational living arrangements?
"this apartment building only accepts 21-45 year olds!"

Christmas could be quite unusual this year. A Zoom Christmas? Or Quaranteam small Thanksgiving? Only invite the family you already live with?

My father in senior living was looking forward to us visiting and chatting in person. We would sit outside using social distancing but since the new outbreaks I wonder if Governor Polis will clamp down again to protect our seniors.

Sidebar: WSJ also had an article today showing deaths due to Alzheimer's has gone up 15%. Part is no doubt due to Covid-19, but they think part of it is less access to their family to help them stay grounded and stay safe. A simple fall can be the start of the end, and if you don't have people to keep you up while walking or other activities, or to help you remember the past...

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