Censorship arrives at My Mountain Town

17 Aug 2020 20:47 #11 by ScienceChic
How about we don't make it personal at all? Instead of saying "you have X", talk about what the public figure has done that makes them so upset. Ask why that bothers them so, seek to understand, or explain why you approve of what the public figure has done. Talk about the issue at hand, not about the person to whom you are responding. It's that simple.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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17 Aug 2020 21:22 #12 by ScienceChic

Pony Soldier wrote: I can actually vouch that Ramage's post was actually here at one time because I remember reading it. Not sure how, but its gone now.

My apologies, the first search I tried did not pull it up. I tried a different sentence and it did find it in the Ring here. Again, it's a case of making the post personal and being rude, rather than addressing the issue.

Would you rather have this forum devolve into the site you just left because we don't hold everyone to a standard of civility here in the Courthouse? Everyone is welcome to go at it as nasty as they like in the Ring, no one chooses to. It's a choice to post here in the Courthouse, and in doing so, there are expectations clearly spelled out in the terms of service and FAQ topic on moderation on how to hold a discussion or posts will be moved. Not deleted, not locked, simply moved, and no matter who makes them.

This site, this business, is more than just the Courthouse forum. It exists for the entire community providing emergency information, weather forecasts, webcams, classifieds, and a place for nonprofits and businesses to share what they have going on and connect with you, and vice versa, and most people don't want to be subjected to insults, ridicule, or negativity. Politics is contentious enough, but it can be discussed without any of the above and keep this site more desirable to visit, and maybe even entice more people to participate in discussions.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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17 Aug 2020 21:47 #13 by Pony Soldier
No, I actually get what you're going for and agree mostly. I was just confused by Ramage's post, but looks like that was just a search issue. I know how easy it is to start taking pot shots at each other over politics because we all feel strongly about these issues. I've tried to self moderate since I know I'm guilty of it. I let my buttons get pushed too easily but I am trying.

A good forum needs light and fair moderation with the same rules being applied both directions. I think you guys do a pretty good job here. I also know how fast a board can die if one side is shouted down and I don't want that to happen here. I've noticed a certain amount of dogpiling on a poster who is simply stating their opinion and unfortunately have taken part in it a couple of times. I will strive to do better.

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17 Aug 2020 22:23 #14 by ramage
SC,
The post that I referenced in my writings was found in"The Ring" not the Courthouse. Please see the Ring , July 14th posting.

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18 Aug 2020 04:49 #15 by HEARTLESS

ScienceChic wrote: Heartless, if you were being censored, your posts would be deleted, your threads locked, and you booted from the forum. "All of your posts are heading to the Ring"? Please. Look at the facts - how many are still here in the Courthouse? Everything you've posted can still be read by any of our members; please, tell me how is that censorship?

The Courthouse is for discussing issues, not spamming viewers with video after video or insulting others. Telling someone they are suffering TDS is an insult. "It’s amazing that your TDS prevents you from seeing that injustice." was the exact quote. Discuss the issue, not the person for their beliefs or it gets moved - this is your living room Rick, not your garage. This forum will be civil discussions of issues and public figures or we can merge the entire Courthouse into the Ring, it's up to all of you.

ramage, that post you quoted isn't posted anywhere here on MMT, so it was not moved to the Ring. If it's not here, it's because it never got posted in the first place. You can go to your Profile Page and see all of the posts you've ever made, the last one of yours that was moved to The Ring was on August 1. We don't delete posts. Ever.

Election years always make tempers short, but that is no excuse to treat each other rudely. The rest of the internet is a cesspool of trolls, jerks, and disrespectful, outrage-fueled garbage. I don't want or expect this place to be all sunshine and roses, but I have made it abundantly clear of the expectation that we will treat each other civilly here while sharing our viewpoints or we can stop discussing politics altogether. Your choice.

SC, since this was directed at me, please perform a Search and my user name and TDS, T.D.S., tds or Trump D... Syndrome and look at all the posts. What you will see is verifiable proof that it exists and is so overwhelming it blinds the person to the truth. I also previously challenged another poster to show my posts that were misogynistic, etc. Wow look at all the posts, none. Is it that I'm Christian or conservative that so bothers those on the Left? All of my posts are intended to show people what is really going on in this world. If the videos are not to your liking, don't watch them. I've stated more than once, you must choose what you believe.

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18 Aug 2020 07:18 #16 by homeagain
I am breaking my self imposed hiatus (that was going to be in place until AFTER Sept).......I will digress,for just a moment and comment.

I have DEEPLY missed the mountain since moving to the western slope. I ATTEMPTED to re establish my membership on another site (and this site also). The OTHER site checked my IP and PROMPTLY
denied me service,since many moons ago I had a run in with the mods. (they denied my husband also).

THIS SITE,which is run in a professional and efficient manner, is FAIR and balanced...BECAUSE of the
ring.

THE RING...from my pov,allows U to continue a "string" of thought to it's completion AND it then allow
a two way conversation to occur.....SOME posters are very proficient at personal attacks, and some
posters have the ability to "come right back at U"....some are offended and some are simply not willing to engage...(go quiet)

BUT....this site is am excellent example of doing the balancing act of free speech,debate or just
allowing a venting process to occur,because life (right now) is "sucky".

I applaud and appreciate the HUGE effort that takes...and I am extremely happy there is a ring,'cause
sometimes I KNOW I want to get my point across in a "if looks could kill,U would be dead".

THANK U MODS AND SC.......

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18 Aug 2020 08:43 #17 by HEARTLESS

ScienceChic wrote: Heartless, if you were being censored, your posts would be deleted, your threads locked, and you booted from the forum. "All of your posts are heading to the Ring"? Please. Look at the facts - how many are still here in the Courthouse? Everything you've posted can still be read by any of our members; please, tell me how is that censorship?

The Courthouse is for discussing issues, not spamming viewers with video after video or insulting others. Telling someone they are suffering TDS is an insult. "It’s amazing that your TDS prevents you from seeing that injustice." was the exact quote. Discuss the issue, not the person for their beliefs or it gets moved - this is your living room Rick, not your garage. This forum will be civil discussions of issues and public figures or we can merge the entire Courthouse into the Ring, it's up to all of you.

ramage, that post you quoted isn't posted anywhere here on MMT, so it was not moved to the Ring. If it's not here, it's because it never got posted in the first place. You can go to your Profile Page and see all of the posts you've ever made, the last one of yours that was moved to The Ring was on August 1. We don't delete posts. Ever.

Election years always make tempers short, but that is no excuse to treat each other rudely. The rest of the internet is a cesspool of trolls, jerks, and disrespectful, outrage-fueled garbage. I don't want or expect this place to be all sunshine and roses, but I have made it abundantly clear of the expectation that we will treat each other civilly here while sharing our viewpoints or we can stop discussing politics altogether. Your choice.

Maybe you can answer this. Since the definition of spamming normally involves commercial advertising, how am I or anyone else gaining monetarily from this? Granted I have insulted others, normally after I've been attacked, please show where that isn't the case.

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18 Aug 2020 09:22 #18 by ramage
SC,
My post was moved to the Ring because it was "rude". But "crude" is allowed.

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WHAT makes U think FLORIDA isn't the equivalent...(.the Mayor,who is a faithful follower of Trump) who ALLOWED BEACHES TO REMAIN OPEN DURING SPRING BREAK.....will be the next TRAIN OF REFRIGERATED TRUCKS....loading lifeless bodies into a "morgue"...get a friggin clue....seriously fucked up.....

Replied by homeagain on topic ANDREW CUOMO FOR PRESIDENT April 2, 2020 to my comment.

Evidently calling me "seriously fucked up" is not rude.

In order to better understand, could you please tell me what makes this comment rude?

"Koobookie,
I neither expect you to believe or consider. I paraphrase a previous poster, " I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you."
Please reference Fox 35 Orlando, Fl to peruse the material that they have amassed.
But again, you have show the remarkable ability to ignore or deflect when there is an opinion that is in opposition to your views. No problem,
I am not addressing you (except for the salutation) rather the larger audience of readers on this site.

By the way, have you had an opportunity to educate yourself as to what he CDC considers a case of Covid-19?"

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18 Aug 2020 09:54 #19 by homeagain

ramage wrote: SC,
My post was moved to the Ring because it was "rude". But "crude" is allowed.

"
WHAT makes U think FLORIDA isn't the equivalent...(.the Mayor,who is a faithful follower of Trump) who ALLOWED BEACHES TO REMAIN OPEN DURING SPRING BREAK.....will be the next TRAIN OF REFRIGERATED TRUCKS....loading lifeless bodies into a "morgue"...get a friggin clue....seriously fucked up.....

Replied by homeagain on topic ANDREW CUOMO FOR PRESIDENT April 2, 2020 to my comment.

Evidently calling me "seriously fucked up" is not rude.

BOLDED it was NOT a reference to U,IF u read the quote...it was THE MAYOR of Florida and his
decision to open beaches..."seriously fucked up'

In order to better understand, could you please tell me what makes this comment rude?

"Koobookie,
I neither expect you to believe or consider. I paraphrase a previous poster, " I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you."
Please reference Fox 35 Orlando, Fl to peruse the material that they have amassed.
But again, you have show the remarkable ability to ignore or deflect when there is an opinion that is in opposition to your views. No problem,
I am not addressing you (except for the salutation) rather the larger audience of readers on this site.

By the way, have you had an opportunity to educate yourself as to what he CDC considers a case of Covid-19?"

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18 Aug 2020 13:04 #20 by ramage
Please help me, HomeAgain, because your syntax leaves it to one's inference as to what is a quote or a complete sentence.
Here is our comment:

WHAT makes U think FLORIDA isn't the equivalent...(.the Mayor,who is a faithful follower of Trump) who ALLOWED BEACHES TO REMAIN OPEN DURING SPRING BREAK.....will be the next TRAIN OF REFRIGERATED TRUCKS....loading lifeless bodies into a "morgue"...get a friggin clue....seriously fucked up.....

Replied by homeagain on topic ANDREW CUOMO FOR PRESIDENT April 2, 2020 to my comment.

Evidently calling me "seriously fucked up" is not rude.

BOLDED it was NOT a reference to U,IF u read the quote...it was THE MAYOR of Florida and his
decision to open beaches..."seriously fucked up'

As I read your earlier comment there is no quotation, the only quotation marks are found around the word "morgue". I accept the fact that you do not wish or are unable to express yourself in a complete sentences. Rather you find the use of ellipse marks, which indicate the omission of material, to convey something else, known only to you.
I accept your apology, that "seriously fucked up" was not directed toward me, but to the Mayor of Florida. By that, I take it to mean the Mayor of some City in Florida? I hope that you realize that there is not a MAYOR of Florida.
Most importantly, however, is your need to use crude terminology "seriously fucked up" to describe an individual. Crude regardless of to whom you are referring. Please provide context for your assertion.

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