The Abraham Accords

17 Sep 2020 10:06 #1 by FredHayek
Israel, with US help, is establishing economic and diplomatic relations with Arab nations in the Middle East. This is a huge power shift for the region. As Iran has taken over Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine, they have scared many Sunni nations in the area. It looks like we might see an Sunni-Jewish alliance to fight off the Iranian theocrats and their terrorist allies.

The Obama administration had thrown in with the Iranians, returning money to them and sending pallets of cash to Iranian officials to grease the deal and hopefully keep the peace in Iraq and Syria. I do wonder what the Biden administration will do if they win in November. Repudiate these new alliances and suck up to Iran again? Or keep a low profile and see how the Abraham Accords work out?

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17 Sep 2020 14:08 #2 by koobookie
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FredHayek wrote: Israel, with US help, is establishing economic and diplomatic relations with Arab nations in the Middle East. This is a huge power shift for the region. As Iran has taken over Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine, they have scared many Sunni nations in the area. It looks like we might see an Sunni-Jewish alliance to fight off the Iranian theocrats and their terrorist allies.

The Obama administration had thrown in with the Iranians, returning money to them and sending pallets of cash to Iranian officials to grease the deal and hopefully keep the peace in Iraq and Syria. I do wonder what the Biden administration will do if they win in November. Repudiate these new alliances and suck up to Iran again? Or keep a low profile and see how the Abraham Accords work out?



Wow. That is such an enormous lie.

www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-gi...150-billion-in-cash/

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own. The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the money that was unfrozen belonged to Iran. It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.


apnews.com/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

THE FACTS: It’s the kind of deal that did not actually take place.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.


Please stop spreading lies.

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17 Sep 2020 15:20 #3 by HEARTLESS
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Your fact checker is supported primarily by the Annenberg Foundation and appears to be paid liars.
capitalresearch.org/article/dishonest-fact-checkers/

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17 Sep 2020 15:25 #4 by homeagain

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17 Sep 2020 15:51 #5 by HEARTLESS
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homeagain wrote: www.foxnews.com/media/kushner-cancels-in...ot-middle-east-peace

EXPLAIN THIS?

What part? MSNBC is a bunch of main stream liars, is that the part?

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17 Sep 2020 16:03 #6 by homeagain
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I believe ANDREA MITCHELL has a respectable reputation AND she has been "on the beat" for decades....
SHE is on par with CHRISTINA AMAPOUR....two WOMEN who have covered MANY officials,both foreign
and domestic....does a "straight up'' interview,but is politically sagacious....sorry, the lame lament about
MSNBC misses the mark.....jmo

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17 Sep 2020 16:03 #7 by FredHayek
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koobookie wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Israel, with US help, is establishing economic and diplomatic relations with Arab nations in the Middle East. This is a huge power shift for the region. As Iran has taken over Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine, they have scared many Sunni nations in the area. It looks like we might see an Sunni-Jewish alliance to fight off the Iranian theocrats and their terrorist allies.

The Obama administration had thrown in with the Iranians, returning money to them and sending pallets of cash to Iranian officials to grease the deal and hopefully keep the peace in Iraq and Syria. I do wonder what the Biden administration will do if they win in November. Repudiate these new alliances and suck up to Iran again? Or keep a low profile and see how the Abraham Accords work out?



Wow. That is such an enormous lie.

www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-gi...150-billion-in-cash/

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own. The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the money that was unfrozen belonged to Iran. It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.


apnews.com/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

THE FACTS: It’s the kind of deal that did not actually take place.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.


Please stop spreading lies.


I said "returning money to them". That is not a lie.
The pallets of cash sent was not a lie.
Secretary Kerry and President Obama chose to cut a deal with Iran, a global exporter of terrorism, pulled back sanctions for nuclear programs that didn't stop despite what Iran agreed to.

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17 Sep 2020 16:04 #8 by FredHayek
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homeagain wrote: I believe ANDREA MITCHELL has a respectable reputation AND she has been "on the beat" for decades....
SHE is on par with CHRISTINA AMAPOUR....two WOMEN who have covered MANY officials,both foreign
and domestic....does a "straight up'' interview,but is politically sagacious....sorry, the lame lament about
MSNBC misses the mark.....jmo


Andrea Mitchell has thrown away all of her objectivity IMO.

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17 Sep 2020 16:07 #9 by HEARTLESS
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This is probably the right time for the "Parachutes quote."

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17 Sep 2020 16:19 #10 by ScienceChic
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Which I will follow up with "Obey Wheaton's Law."

Or else.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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