Classic Government Efficiency

10 Aug 2021 08:21 #11 by Rick
Replied by Rick on topic Classic Government Efficiency

koobookie wrote:
I see, so you criticize the current policies, yet have no answer other than "it's not working." would it not make more fiscal sense to provide a $20k rental for a homeless person rather than continue the $42k to $104k currently being spent? Perhaps we could look to what other countries have done to solve their homeless problem.

And no, homelessness is not "just being drunk, so get sober" solution. Some homeless are there through no fault of their own.

As I said, I haven't spent a lot of time looking into solutions for homelessness in the Denver Metro area. I'm not an expert in a lot of things, but when I pay someone to perform a service, I expect them to find the best solutions to my problem and it's not up to me to know the answers. Does that make sense? If I wanted to take the time, I'm sure I could find better answers than letting homeless people camp in any public spaces and shit on the sidewalks, but I'm pretty busy most of the time and I'm not getting paid to do that. If you think the current strategy is working well enough then let that be known, otherwise you should be as concerned as I am as we all watch Denver go down the toilet.

As for your comment:

"And no, homelessness is not "just being drunk, so get sober" solution. Some homeless are there through no fault of their own."

I would appreciate you not putting words in my mouth or attributing someone else's opinion as to how I feel or think.

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10 Aug 2021 08:25 #12 by FredHayek
Reduce the regulation on building housing so it can be built faster and cheaper. Many of the homeless in Denver do have jobs and income but not enough money for these outrageous rents and housing prices. Same issue in California, every year they increase the regulations on building new homes, make it easier, not harder.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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10 Aug 2021 08:46 #13 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: Reduce the regulation on building housing so it can be built faster and cheaper. Many of the homeless in Denver do have jobs and income but not enough money for these outrageous rents and housing prices. Same issue in California, every year they increase the regulations on building new homes, make it easier, not harder.


What are these regulations, Fred?

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10 Aug 2021 11:01 #14 by homeagain

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: I think U will find HOMELESSNESS is everywhere and has been getting worse,if the moratorium is let
to expire,you will see many more,living out of cars OR tents. We,here in Montrose,have a homeless
problem and it is getting worse...more demand for food,clothing,there is NO place to rent...cost is prohibitive

I realize there are homeless people in Montrose and I'm sure there are is probably a shelter or two there. Is your mayor allowing homeless camps in public places yet?

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10 Aug 2021 11:07 #15 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Reduce the regulation on building housing so it can be built faster and cheaper. Many of the homeless in Denver do have jobs and income but not enough money for these outrageous rents and housing prices. Same issue in California, every year they increase the regulations on building new homes, make it easier, not harder.


What are these regulations, Fred?

One example is "green roofs". California is requiring green roofs on new buildings. So either add solar panels or greenery on your roof.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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10 Aug 2021 11:12 #16 by homeagain

homeagain wrote:

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: I think U will find HOMELESSNESS is everywhere and has been getting worse,if the moratorium is let
to expire,you will see many more,living out of cars OR tents. We,here in Montrose,have a homeless
problem and it is getting worse...more demand for food,clothing,there is NO place to rent...cost is prohibitive

I realize there are homeless people in Montrose and I'm sure there are is probably a shelter or two there. Is your mayor allowing homeless camps in public places yet?

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NOT enough shelters...camping interments down by the river park/walking paths...you will see emerging
obvious homeless....rent is outrageously hi here and living out of cars is not uncommon.(emerging out of the bushes,to re enter the world for the day.) Housing is out of reach for most home buyers,like everywhere else.

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10 Aug 2021 18:37 #17 by Rick
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homeagain wrote:

homeagain wrote:

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: I think U will find HOMELESSNESS is everywhere and has been getting worse,if the moratorium is let
to expire,you will see many more,living out of cars OR tents. We,here in Montrose,have a homeless
problem and it is getting worse...more demand for food,clothing,there is NO place to rent...cost is prohibitive

I realize there are homeless people in Montrose and I'm sure there are is probably a shelter or two there. Is your mayor allowing homeless camps in public places yet?

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NOT enough shelters...camping interments down by the river park/walking paths...you will see emerging
obvious homeless....rent is outrageously hi here and living out of cars is not uncommon.(emerging out of the bushes,to re enter the world for the day.) Housing is out of reach for most home buyers,like everywhere else.

I think you're seeing typical summer nomads camping while the weather is good. I doubt you'll see them around when the temp drops below freezing. Maybe you'll be lucky like us in the city and they can build some low income high rises near your home. The liberal epicenter of Colorado (Boulder) doesn't allow that in their welcoming and diverse city.

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11 Aug 2021 06:40 #18 by homeagain
ACTUALLY Rick, come about Halloween time frame,you start seeing signs (by homeless) NEED winter
clothes,camping gear.

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