Let Biden's Impeachment Proceedings Begin

homeagain wrote: www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/afghanista...den-miss-ncna1277067

3/4 thru article it states,TRUMPS decisions de moralized the "army" of rag tag soldiers and they saw NO support as a result, saw the hand writing on the wall......and called it a day. (NO further incentive to stay and fight)......EVERYONE is complicit in this fubar.

Sorry, you cant do that this time. You can't claim to know how Trump would have handled the exit. You can't say he would have pulled the military before he got our people and allies out. All those people are now at the mercy of terrorists and even the worst sources like MSNBC are having to condemn Biden's idiocy. European allies are universally outraged and nobody is blaming Trump.

WHAT I am saying is....BIDEN botched the exit....TRUMP and other POTUSs were implicit in this fubar...
they let it ride,and ride and ride....1,000 of lives lost (our side) civilians of the country crushed,we NEVER have truly understood the mindset of the middle east...THEY ARE TRIBAL,and we have ALWAYS assumed
we could change that....WRONG HEADED mindset....ALL POTUS have a heavy hand in this horrific mess.

The Afghanistan occupation was over long and massively expensive. Deadly? 2500 deaths over twenty years should be considered very minimal. Even if you accept the 100,000 Afghan casualties. Irony? The Afghans getting out right now might be the true winners. They get to leave their very poor nation, get religious freedom and allowed to live the way they want. The Taliban? They "win" a desperately poor nation that has little chance of getting international aid from the West. TBD? Will they try to export terrorism and offer havens for religious radicals? Maybe. But somehow I think our drones will still be flying over the region. And the commanders who misbehave might even have cruise missiles flatten their homes and offices.

homeagain wrote: WHAT I am saying is....BIDEN botched the exit....TRUMP and other POTUSs were implicit in this fubar...
they let it ride,and ride and ride....1,000 of lives lost (our side) civilians of the country crushed,we NEVER have truly understood the mindset of the middle east...THEY ARE TRIBAL,and we have ALWAYS assumed
we could change that....WRONG HEADED mindset....ALL POTUS have a heavy hand in this horrific mess.

You're wrong about Trump, sorry. Afghanistan was pretty stable and we had not lost a single soldier in 18 months. Trump didn't start this war so he had to deal with what he was dealt. If Trump was screwing up the war the media and Democrats would have added it to their idiotic list of impeachment offenses. You also have to remember how ISIS got their asses kicked and were no longer a factor like they were under Obama.

We all know this war was a mistake, but to blame Trump for it just defies the facts. I don't remember ever hearing Trump being quoted that the war was a good idea, I could be wrong but I doubt it. Trump also ran on ending the occupation which actually was a mistake because I think he listened to the polls more than the military who did a good job of stabilizing the country and allowing women to have the freedom they never had.

I SAID ALL POTUS's......perhaps if u research the actually agreement Trump made to end the war....you will find GAPS and nebulous phrasing that did NOT lock definitive details....the TRUE problem is the workaround
for the lack of LOCK IN. DO THE RESEARCH ,CAUSE I'M NOT DOING FOR YOU. Biden has definite accountability for this fuck up, but TRUMP'S loosey goosey "legal" agreement is the basis for some of
the problems being encountered.

If that makes you feel better about what Biden did, I guess I'll just let you hold on to that.

The fact you can not deny is that Biden and the military watched the Taliban take over city after city right up until Biden decided to pull the troops before pulling our people. What we don't know yet is what his commanders were telling him days and hours before the withdrawing of our troops.

I've been watching the Democrat media all day and the only one who blames Trump for the decisions Biden made is Joy Reid, so you're in good company.

Even the British politicians are condemning Biden right now.

It's pretty much the entire world Fred, except maybe China, Iran, and Russia... they are all pretty happy.

!3 American soldiers killed so far with many more critically wounded. Nothing from the White House yet, I'm wondering how our own Bagdad Bob will spin this one since yesterday she was saying this was a success.. Can you imagine being on that last plane out?

This president has to resign as soon as possible... the military needs an actual Commander if these remaining men and women have any chance of getting out alive. Those let not wearing a uniform are doomed and the blood is on Biden's hands.

#25th Amendment? Or medical retirement? At least cackling Kamala Harris can answer questions.