What three things would we all have to agree on?

Can't argue with pie.

Mmmmm. :eatingsmilies:

I wouldn't try to refudiate it either...

Scruffy wrote: That's not the info I found.

It looks like we spent almost 20% of Social Security, about 19% on the Military, 16% on Unemployment/Welfare/Mandatory Spending, etc. etc. You can see for yourself.

So you aren't going to count the Medicaid 8% which by definition is 'a means-tested, needs-based social welfare or social protection program'. So social welfare program in the definition doesn't include it into the social welfrare programs? And who pays for medicare? Isn't that also a social program paid for by the government? Those three alone take it up to 37% of the budget. But even without medicare it is still much higher than the defense spending with Medicaid which after this health bill will more than triple. That is more than 20 times what we spedn on education.

Viking, you can't refudiate a pie.

Scruffy wrote: Viking, you can't refudiate a pie.

LOL. I didn't I just added up all the welfare programs including Medicaid and Medicare. And you never posted where you got that chart from? Is it a reliable source?

Three things we can all agree on? Hope, Change, and Teleprompters don't work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Unite ... ral_budget

The Viking wrote: Three things we can all agree on? Hope, Change, and Teleprompters don't work.

How about "Hope, Change, and sweat makes the ink on your hand blurry."

Scruffy wrote: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

rofllol I love this part.

The President's budget for 2010 totals $3.55 trillion. Percentages in parentheses indicate percentage change compared to 2009. This budget request is broken down by the following expenditures:

Mandatory spending: $2.184 trillion (+15.6%)
$677.95 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security
$571 billion (−15.2%) – Other mandatory programs
$453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare
$290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid
$164 billion (+18.0%) – Interest on National Debt
$11 billion (+275%) – Potential disaster costs
$0 billion (−100%) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
$0 billion (−100%) – Financial stabilization efforts

They put welfare and social programs under 'other mandatory programs'. Yes, now our social and welfare programs are mandatory according to wikipedia. BS they are. And when you add that up and medicare and Medicaid, it is by far most of the spending in our budget. And the Defense of our country is discretionary. BS! That is manditory or we will have no counrty to defend.

Wikipedia is absolutely NOT a reliable source.