Plant workers sent home with out pay for Obamas visit

WayneHarrison wrote: I'm sure we would be in so much better shape right now if McCain had been elected president.

I would agree with your statement. However, the press would be working harder if McCain had done just half the spending Obama has. The press would be working harder to find out who offer a candidate a job. The press would be doing stories of crime and violence in the border states instead of doing photo ops of fifteen people protesting with signs. Yep, the media would be working harder instead of taking the bread crumbs offered by Gibbs...the press is treated like a dog by the White House and it is role they enjoy. Now, that explains the kick in the butt a few got for asking hard questions about the offer of a job to Sestak. Instead, they get kick and they will quit the questioning.

Breaking News: Heads are going to roll over the oil spill. Elizabeth Birnbaum, director of the embattled U.S. Minerals Management Service, which oversees offshore drilling, has been fired, Fox News has confirmed.

Beth I hear you calling
But I can't come home right now I got to fundraise
Me and the boys are playing
And we just can't find the Louisianna Bay

Just a few more hours
And I'll be back the White house
I think I hear them calling
Oh Beth what can I do to make this oil go way
Beth what can I do

You say you feel so empty
That our White House has fired you
I'm always somewhere else
And you're always there alone to take the fall.

residenttroll wrote:

WayneHarrison wrote: I'm sure we would be in so much better shape right now if McCain had been elected president.

I would agree with your statement. However, the press would be working harder if McCain had done just half the spending Obama has.

The myth of the liberal media- it's almost as stupid as calling Obama a socialist for turning over the treasury to private corporations..You guys literally have everything ass backwards..Thats why people are making fun of you tea baggers..If you were wondering

JoeTheSepticTankPumper wrote: Well, maybe the Gen Contractor should send the bill to the WH. I'd be ok with that, probably chump change compared to the bill for AF1. Just add it to our massive debt.

I don't buy the 1-day extension, assuming it is true. They would have probably been working that day anyway on a new contract somewhere else, or collecting unemployment. So they still lost a days work.

Did the GC or an industry Rep. invite Obama or did he invite himself?

It seems logical to me that if you miss a day of work you need to make it up somewhere (not quite like a school closing). Maybe they can work on Saturday and get it clocked as overtime?

I don't buy the idea that they would have a new contract job the very next day. That almost never happens. You really think there are contract employees that recieve unemployment benefits for one day?

Photo-fish wrote:

JoeTheSepticTankPumper wrote: Well, maybe the Gen Contractor should send the bill to the WH. I'd be ok with that, probably chump change compared to the bill for AF1. Just add it to our massive debt.

I don't buy the 1-day extension, assuming it is true. They would have probably been working that day anyway on a new contract somewhere else, or collecting unemployment. So they still lost a days work.

Did the GC or an industry Rep. invite Obama or did he invite himself?

It seems logical to me that if you miss a day of work you need to make it up somewhere (not quite like a school closing). Maybe they can work on Saturday and get it clocked as overtime?

I don't buy the idea that they would have a new contract job the very next day. That almost never happens. You really think there are contract employees that recieve unemployment benefits for one day?

You probably shouldn't even give their latest outrage of the day serious response...It's ridiculous. The two wars, the tanking economy, the health care problem, the unregulated oil spills, the bankers getting all of our money- yes, but a facrtory closing for a day, no.

WayneHarrison wrote: You mean the Mitt who gave Massachusetts its health care plan? That Mitt?

But that was a State plan. Not a federal one. You cannot force this health care on a federal level. Each state should have their own right to make their own individual health care plans. And they know it didn't work out as planned so they have tweaked it. That is the one area where I do disagree with him but you will never find a candidate with whom you agree on all issues. And after seeing if not work in Mass. I can't believe Obama and the Dems are trying to make the whole country follow the same failed policies.

The federal plan was said to be modeled after the Massachusetts plan.

In November 2004, political leaders began advocating for major reforms of the Massachusetts health care system to expand coverage. First, the Senate President Robert Travaglini called for a plan to reduce the number of uninsured by half. A few days later, the Governor, Mitt Romney, announced that he would propose a plan to cover virtually all of the uninsured.

You lost me on that one Wayne. Are you saying that Congresses plan that they passed is modeled after the Massachusetts plan?

WayneHarrison wrote: The federal plan was said to be modeled after the Massachusetts plan.

In November 2004, political leaders began advocating for major reforms of the Massachusetts health care system to expand coverage. First, the Senate President Robert Travaglini called for a plan to reduce the number of uninsured by half. A few days later, the Governor, Mitt Romney, announced that he would propose a plan to cover virtually all of the uninsured.

I personally don't care if it was modeled after the Massachusetts plan (the cost of which isn't even close to what was projected) or the plan of another nation or the ideals of Marx - it isn't a power that was granted to the Congress, or the federal government for that matter, by the Constitution. If the governors and legislatures of the 50 states each adopted the same plan that Congress passed, there would be no issue. The issue isn't what they passed, the issue is they lack the authority to address the issue at all.

LOL

The Viking wrote: You lost me on that one Wayne. Are you saying that Congresses plan that they passed is modeled after the Massachusetts plan?

Please tell me you already knew that.

In 2006, then-governor Mitt Romney signed a sweeping health-insurance overhaul in Massachusetts into law. It relied on subsidies, exchanges, and mandates to extend coverage to the uninsured. Now, four years later, it has become the model for President Obama's new national law—and a big political problem for Romney, who risks alienating Republican critics of the president's plan as he attempts strike a delicate balance between refusing to renounce his own reforms and criticizing Obama's very similar plan. "As President Obama himself has pointed out, Romney is the guy who created the prototype for Obamacare," David Boaz, vice president of the libertarian Cato Institute, said recently. "How can he lead the charge against a health-care plan that is modeled on his own?"

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/18/mitt ... ycare.html