Mass. Senate Passes Toughest Anti-Immigrant Law in Country

It's is sad that it has come to having to carry your passport AS A LEGAL US CITIZEN just to avoid being detained... what is even sadder is how many are OK with it.... "it does not affect me" seems to be their head in the sand answer to that one....

Again as has been stated by many left leaning folks... we are all for cracking down on illegals... and as archer has SO eloquently stated, and repeated, we need to take away the reason they come here... JOBS. If you get companies/corporations to quit hiring them ILLEGALLY... you WILL see a sharp decrease in border crossings.

netdude wrote: Again as has been stated by many left leaning folks... we are all for cracking down on illegals... and as archer has SO eloquently stated, and repeated, we need to take away the reason they come here... JOBS. If you get companies/corporations to quit hiring them ILLEGALLY... you WILL see a sharp decrease in border crossings.

Agreed and I hope more states follow Massachusetts lead. Huge fines for people who help with fake ID's and for companies who hire known illegal immigrants will put a very fast stop to this.

The Viking wrote:

netdude wrote: Again as has been stated by many left leaning folks... we are all for cracking down on illegals... and as archer has SO eloquently stated, and repeated, we need to take away the reason they come here... JOBS. If you get companies/corporations to quit hiring them ILLEGALLY... you WILL see a sharp decrease in border crossings.

Agreed and I hope more states follow Massachusetts lead. Huge fines for people who help with fake ID's and for companies who hire known illegal immigrants will put a very fast stop to this.

If we boil many issues down (by boiling down I mean removing the left/right rhetoric/partisan BS), many on this forum are much closer than what it seems sometimes. There will always be a few issues that we just won't agree on, that is OK... but I think we are closer on more than we are not.

netdude wrote:

The Viking wrote:

netdude wrote: Again as has been stated by many left leaning folks... we are all for cracking down on illegals... and as archer has SO eloquently stated, and repeated, we need to take away the reason they come here... JOBS. If you get companies/corporations to quit hiring them ILLEGALLY... you WILL see a sharp decrease in border crossings.

Agreed and I hope more states follow Massachusetts lead. Huge fines for people who help with fake ID's and for companies who hire known illegal immigrants will put a very fast stop to this.

If we boil many issues down (by boiling down I mean removing the left/right rhetoric/partisan BS), many on this forum are much closer than what it seems sometimes. There will always be a few issues that we just won't agree on, that is OK... but I think we are closer on more than we are not.

I agree. I think a few things that the two sides will never come together on are the number of social programs, taxing those who create jobs to give money to those that get laid off by those companies that are overtaxed, :bash (wealth distribution), and what things government should be involved in. I think one side agrees they are best left to military, infrastructure, and some social programs and the other wants the governement much more involved in more areas of their life.

But I think you are right, we all would be a lot closer on issues if there were not a D or and R behind our names.

As I understand it, a passport is not required, any form of legal government ID is supposed to be acceptable. IE driver’s license, state issued ID card, Federal issued ID card, etc.
Agreed this is not the best way to attack the illegal problem, the best way is to cut off the jobs, and the benefits. No more catch and release. Deport every illegal convicted of any crime, and make re-entering after deportation a felony with some serious consequences.

Grady wrote: As I understand it, a passport is not required, any form of legal government ID is supposed to be acceptable. IE driver’s license, state issued ID card, Federal issued ID card, etc.
Agreed this is not the best way to attack the illegal problem, the best way is to cut off the jobs, and the benefits. No more catch and release. Deport every illegal convicted of any crime, and make re-entering after deportation a felony with some serious consequences.

Exactly. that is what I thought too. But just like with any American, they run you through the system and if they find out you don't really have a license and that is a fake, then you better be able to prove why you have a fake ID.

Make my words, micro-chip IDs are not far away.

TPP wrote: Make my words, micro-chip IDs are not far away.

I won't argue with you there. It is not only already being talked about seriously but the Liberals in our Government love being able to keep track of people and they are in control. Plus it was predicted in the Bible and it is inevitable.

The Viking wrote:

TPP wrote: Make my words, micro-chip IDs are not far away.

I won't argue with you there. It is not only already being talked about seriously but the Liberals in our Government love being able to keep track of people and they are in control. Plus it was predicted in the Bible and it is inevitable.

Agreed. But they won’t be mandatory at first, child molesters and rapists first, after all we have a society to protect. Then convicted felons followed by gun owners, after all we have a society to protect. And its so much easier to keep track of medical records with the “new” technology, everyone who receives Medicare, Medical or what ever medical programs, is next, after all we have a society to protect. And on down the line until every baby in chipped before it leaves the hospital.
No more having to carry around that wallet or purse, just RF scan the base of your skull.
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