Backtrack Barry

"The original Obama promise to start bringing American troops home from the shadows of the Hindu Kush -- a pledge made to placate the anti-military base of his party -- created a whole host of new problems. It told the Taliban they can wait us out. It told the Iranians and elements in Pakistan to increase efforts to control the outcome. It told our allies to start packing their bags for home. And it told Karzai and every corrupt government official in Afghanistan to steal as much as they can while the gringos still are writing checks."

http://townhall.com/columnists/OliverNo ... ack/page/1




Are we there to win or not? What's his plan? What kind of message is he sending American families who have lost loved ones in that war? If he were a true American that loved his country he would be delivering a strong message that America is in it to win! Who the hell is this man and how did he get elected?

Deaf, dreamy eyed symPATHETICS put him in office.

The Democrats don't care to know who he really is. He was never vetted by them and nothing he has been or done is important to them, except that he is and can be his puppet.

"Who the hell is this man and how did he get elected?"

Travelingirl-I've been asking myself these questions since 2008 along with, "where the hell did he come from?" The whole situation is surreal and defies conventional logic.

It will take a generation to clean up Obama's mess, typical college kid.

More liberal as a Senator that the Socialist Senator or Teddy Kennedy, he finds himself trapped in Afghanistan. Unless things go really well, I don't think he will be able to pull out before his re-election.

WOW! I didn't know that circle jerks were so entertaining to watch! You guys should get a room.

Scruffy wrote: WOW! I didn't know that circle jerks were so entertaining to watch! You guys should get a room.

People who live in glass........................ Sorry wrong one. People who represent themselves with pink hair should be the last one to bring up circle jerks

travelingirl wrote: "The original Obama promise to start bringing American troops home from the shadows of the Hindu Kush -- a pledge made to placate the anti-military base of his party -- created a whole host of new problems. It told the Taliban they can wait us out. It told the Iranians and elements in Pakistan to increase efforts to control the outcome. It told our allies to start packing their bags for home. And it told Karzai and every corrupt government official in Afghanistan to steal as much as they can while the gringos still are writing checks."

http://townhall.com/columnists/OliverNo ... ack/page/1

Are we there to win or not? What's his plan? What kind of message is he sending American families who have lost loved ones in that war? If he were a true American that loved his country he would be delivering a strong message that America is in it to win! Who the hell is this man and how did he get elected?

Can you define winning? What would a win look like in Afghanistan? I understand that there are less than 100 Al Quaeda left there at this point. Does that mean that our target is only the Taliban and if so, why?

I do not have the expertise or information to make any valid military judgement, but I do believe the following:

1) Defeat the Taliban. If pressure is taken away they will do it again.

2) Stablize Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan want the Taliban to go away. They are aligning themselves to those who will deliver security for their families, education for their children, and basic infrastructure, such as electricity, roads, clinics and hospitals. If they think we aren't in for the long haul, out of fear, they'll submit to heavy-hand of the Taliban and they're back to aggression, genocide, abuse of religion. etc. Women and children are being liberated from the opressiveness they suffered for generations - another overlooked postive outcome.

3) Prevent another 9/11. Seems like 9/11 is just a faint memory but I still get ill when I think about those people jumping out of windows.

4) It's the moral thing to do. The Taliban and others like them need to know their "jihad" and other forms of terrorism will not be tolerated.

I think Georgetown University terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman said it best:

"You can make the argument that we're in way over our heads, that we're in a quixotic quest -- except that there is still al-Qaeda. If we don't succeed -- and success for me is stabilizing Afghanistan and fixing Pakistan -- we're looking at another 9/11. Obama needs to jolt us out of our complacency, and soon...But sometimes we really do have something to be scared about. If we've learned anything from 9/11, we should understand that time is now."