Feds bringing back up internet "Kill Switch"

31 Jan 2011 15:19 #1 by Grady
Oh, they are only doing it to "protect" us. rofllol :lol:

US gets internet 'kill switch' bill ready
Legislation granting the president internet-killing powers is to be re-introduced soon to a Senate committee, the proposal’s chief sponsor told Wired.com on Friday.

The resurgence of the so-called “kill switch” legislation came the same day Egyptians faced an internet blackout designed to counter massive demonstrations in that country.

The bill, which has bipartisan support, is being floated by Sen. Susan Collins, the Republican ranking member on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. The proposed legislation, which Collins said would not give the president the same power Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak is exercising to quell dissent, sailed through the Homeland Security Committee in December but expired with the new Congress weeks later.


>>>>> Wired.com <<<<<<

Now where was that link to the HAM forum, not that the feds couldn't jam the radio spectrum if they chose to do so.

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31 Jan 2011 16:25 #2 by Rockdoc
Paranoia on exhibit at its finest.

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31 Jan 2011 17:37 #3 by major bean
Why is this paranoia? What makes a bill dangerous is not what the current president may do with the power, but what will some whacko president 20 years from now decide to do with the power granted. This is the danger of the Patriot Act and other legislation. There is no guarantee that stable, steady leaders will always have power. That is the caution with which the Constitution was written.

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31 Jan 2011 17:49 #4 by Rorschach81
The government wants the ability to shut down the largest form of communication and information in case of a ‘National Emergency”! How is anyone okay with this?

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31 Jan 2011 17:51 #5 by major bean
It will be rather bad if ever the populace is the "national emergency".

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31 Jan 2011 18:04 #6 by Rorschach81
The possibilities of what is being proposed are endless, and very disturbing. I do not think that an internet kill switch is a good idea even if it was in the right hands; and there are NONE of those in Washington on ether side. That only leaves one place for this obscene amount of power to go.

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31 Jan 2011 19:08 #7 by Local_Historian

major bean wrote: Why is this paranoia? What makes a bill dangerous is not what the current president may do with the power, but what will some whacko president 20 years from now decide to do with the power granted. This is the danger of the Patriot Act and other legislation. There is no guarantee that stable, steady leaders will always have power. That is the caution with which the Constitution was written.


:yeahthat:

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31 Jan 2011 19:43 #8 by FredHayek
I am not as worried as the rest of you. There may be times, especially if we are experiencing a massive overseas internet attack, where it would only be prudent to shut things down.

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01 Feb 2011 09:59 #9 by Rockdoc

major bean wrote: Why is this paranoia? What makes a bill dangerous is not what the current president may do with the power, but what will some whacko president 20 years from now decide to do with the power granted. This is the danger of the Patriot Act and other legislation. There is no guarantee that stable, steady leaders will always have power. That is the caution with which the Constitution was written.


Not worried about the current president. It is the whole concept that reeks of paranoia in the sense of inhibiting communication. You are right about the potential danger. It provides a great means to circumvent the first amendment. Now, as pointed out subsequently it is also a means to regulate internet attacks, but the reality is, the attacks would be focused on government of some industry segment or both, not everyone in the US. An internet kill switch need only insulate those entities it would seem, not the entire internet. The only reason to kill the entire internet would be to stem a revolution.

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01 Feb 2011 10:03 #10 by ScienceChic

Rockdoc Franz wrote:

major bean wrote: Why is this paranoia? What makes a bill dangerous is not what the current president may do with the power, but what will some whacko president 20 years from now decide to do with the power granted. This is the danger of the Patriot Act and other legislation. There is no guarantee that stable, steady leaders will always have power. That is the caution with which the Constitution was written.


Not worried about the current president. It is the whole concept that reeks of paranoia in the sense of inhibiting communication. You are right about the potential danger. It provides a great means to circumvent the first amendment. Now, as pointed out subsequently it is also a means to regulate internet attacks, but the reality is, the attacks would be focused on government of some industry segment or both, not everyone in the US. An internet kill switch need only insulate those entities it would seem, not the entire internet. The only reason to kill the entire internet would be to stem a revolution.

:yeahthat:

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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