Boehner Out Golfing Amid Government Shutdown Talks

PrintSmith wrote: This is the same Mark Zandi that helped write the SwindleUs saying that unemployment would peak at about 9% in 2010, fall to under 8% in 2011 and be under 6% in 2012 if it was adopted, isn't it?

Hmmmm. So far the guy was wrong, on nearly every point he made in support of the SwindleUs he helped to write, but I'm sure, along with all of you, that the guy will be right this time around. :Whistle

So rather than discuss the merits of the article or the facts underlying the message, attack the messenger.

Another recent economic report by Goldman Sachs discusses even more dire consequences from the Republican plan:


The spending cut package that passed the House of Representatives would have a deeper effect. Under the House passed spending bill, the drag on GDP growth from federal fiscal policy would increase by 1.5pp to 2pp in Q2 and Q3 compared with current law.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/0 ... rowth.html

StDS....I have seen no indication that the Republicans care much what the ramifications of their bill(s) might be....It's all about them and their agenda, NOT what is good for the country and their constituents (ok, they may be concerned about their corporate sponsors and lobbyist money)

That would be the same institution that had their backsides bailed out of the AIG mess they had gotten themselves into courtesy of the federal government, no? I'm sure that Goldman Sachs, the Darth Vader of financial institutions according to the left, wouldn't have an invested interest in staying on the good side of the current administration. We'll forget all about how Andy Stern and the SEIU thugs staged demonstrations surrounding the Goldman Sachs bailouts now that one of their economic reports supports the progressive position, right Dog?

And I'm not "attacking" the messenger Dog, merely pointing out the prognostication abilities of the person or institution are suspect based upon how well their expert prognostications panned out in the recent past. Now, if Mr. Zandi had been spot on in his predictions recently, there might be some degree of confidence about his latest ones. Given that his shots about the SwindleUs were barely on the paper, let alone close to the mark, one might tend to have a bit less confidence in his ability to hit the bulls eye when the shot really matters, especially when the tack others wish to take is diametrically opposed to his Keyensian proclivities. One would expect him to predict doom and gloom should advice other than his be followed as surely as one could expect a progressive Democrat to oppose letting millionaires and billionaires decide how best to use the harvest of their sowing of capital into the economy.

archer wrote: StDS....I have seen no indication that the Republicans care much what the ramifications of their bill(s) might be....It's all about them and their agenda, NOT what is good for the country and their constituents (ok, they may be concerned about their corporate sponsors and lobbyist money)

Unlike the dispassionate view that the Democrats take towards their corporate sponsers, lobbyist money and union support, right archer?

Guess what my friend, the conservatives are as equally convinced that their agenda will serve the best interests of the nation and its people as Obama and his progressive cabal are that theirs will. That you believe otherwise doesn't make their pursuit of that agenda any less pure than the progressive's pursuit of theirs. Of course, all one need do is look at the history of great civilizations and cultures that pursued a policy of consolidating governance into one powerful central authority to realize where the progressive pursuit will eventually lead this nation, but that doesn't mean that it is pursued out of malice. Ignorance perhaps, but not malice.

Does anyone else think that what is happening is part of a plan of Obama's? It seems to me that this divisiveness we are experiencing is preplanned and going according to the script. It is as if the Left is feeding these :Koolaid: drinkers talking points to argue with the facts that the rest of us see so clearly, in order to create this civil unrest and concern. Is this some kind of slight of hand tactic, while we argue, they destroy us from within?

Nmysys wrote: Does anyone else think that what is happening is part of a plan of Obama's? It seems to me that this divisiveness we are experiencing is preplanned and going according to the script. It is as if the Left is feeding these :Koolaid: drinkers talking points to argue with the facts that the rest of us see so clearly, in order to create this civil unrest and concern. Is this some kind of slight of hand tactic, while we argue, they destroy us from within?

It appears that you are the one drinkin the conspiracy theory :Koolaid:

It's actually the most sense I've ever seen him make. Too bad he is still seeing things through the rose colored glasses of self purity. Nmysys, it is politicians, in general, not just one party, that is feeding everyone the koolaid and we, as Americans, drink it up in large quantities daily. Think about what Bush did at the end of his term - he pushed for, and got TARP. That was nothing but the largest ripoff in history - at least until Obama pulled off a bigger one. They are perfectly happy to throw out some talking points every day and keep us squabbling amongst ourselves about golfing or immigration or how the muslims are going to take over the world while they sit back and perpetrate theft on a grand scale. Rah rah rah for my side...

What I see on this site is mostly the same people posting daily articles designed to inflame and incite, IMO. If it's something Obama has a hand in, I wonder how he is able to get those people to post the articles?

Along those same lines, why aren't we hearing more about cutting the budget like this thread and less about Islamophobia?

There are a multitude of articles posted each day from every slant imaginable. Sites such as HuffPo, The WashPo, Fox News, CBS, etc, very selectively pick articles and stories that add credence to their particular slant. Its as simple as that.

Nmysys wrote: Does anyone else think that what is happening is part of a plan of Obama's? It seems to me that this divisiveness we are experiencing is preplanned and going according to the script.

That is not what I think. It appears to me that the grand plans of the left after the 2008 elections are turning to ash and they are beside themselves.

They are shocked that they woke up the American populace. Their heads are exploding. I just hope there frustration and rage does not turn them to violence.