Prescribed Burn/DCVR

07 Feb 2011 10:05 #1 by jf1acai
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Crews are burning piles on Desparado in Deer Creek Valley Ranchos.

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07 Feb 2011 11:15 #2 by RY
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jf1acai wrote: Crews are burning piles on Desparado in Deer Creek Valley Ranchos.


with this ferocious wind??? sounds dangerous to me.

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08 Feb 2011 08:47 #3 by jf1acai
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Name Deer Creek Valley Ranchos Pile
Agency CNTY
ST CO
Unit PAX
Planned Start Date 02/07/2011
Number of days: 3
Acres 100
Strategy/Fuel Type Slash piles
Legal 6S 72W 32
Latitude/Longitude 39° 28´ 36" / 105° 28´ 18"
Remarks Slash piles burn in the Deer Creek Valley Ranchos subdivision. Off of North side of Park County Road 43.
Report Date: 02/07/2011

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08 Feb 2011 16:25 #4 by Beeks
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with this ferocious wind??? sounds dangerous to me.


That's why they're the pros, and you're not.....

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08 Feb 2011 18:28 #5 by jf1acai
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Beeks wrote: That's why they're the pros, and you're not.....


An excellent example of poor and arrogant public relations on the part of the fire department, IMO.

Perhaps a less arrogant explanation of why it was/is not dangerous for the "pros" would better serve both the public (the ones who pay for it) and the fire department?

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08 Feb 2011 19:01 #6 by Beeks
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Since I'm not a member of the fire department, it's only a reflection of my personal poor and arrogant public relations, but thanks. jf1acai, you seem to have background in wildland fire, I assume you're somewhat versed in the requirements necessary to perform a prescribed fire. These guys aren't simply running through the woods lighting stuff on fire. They have rules that they need to follow, and liabilities to consider if they make a mistake. For the person with no fire background to second guess that is just ignorant.

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08 Feb 2011 19:23 #7 by jf1acai
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I guess it is all in your perception.

I didn't see any second guessing, I saw a perfectly appropriate comment by a concerned citizen.

And I can recall quite a few prescribed burns, performed by qualified fire fighters, which have gotten out of control. I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens commenting about the advisability of a prescribed burn. I think an informed and reasonable response would go a long way toward better relations between the fire fighters and the public.

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08 Feb 2011 20:44 #8 by CC
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How much can a bunch of arrogant 20 somethings know about wild land fires?

I guess your behavior beeks, so resembled behavior we had seen modeled by those very individuals that it was hard to tell the difference.

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08 Feb 2011 20:56 #9 by CC
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How about that controlled letter Hayman burn.

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08 Feb 2011 21:11 #10 by Mr Peabody
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Beeks wrote:

with this ferocious wind??? sounds dangerous to me.


That's why they're the pros, and you're not.....


Do ever wonder why they changed the name of "controlled burn" to "prescribed burn"?
Ask the folks in Los Alamos. The Cerro Grande Fire was a prescribed fire that escaped control and burned 237 homes in Los Alamos, New Mexico, in May 2000. Seems it was too windy. :oops: And it was started by the PROS.

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