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Lance Armstrong Stripped of All Titles, Banned for Life

24 Aug 2012 09:16 #11 by Martin Ent Inc
Well he still gots all the $$$ from his former fame.


I think they were just after Lance. look at others who walked. Other sports included.

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24 Aug 2012 09:39 #12 by ScienceChic
For now Martin. There are sponsors and gov't agencies that have publicly said they'd got after him to repay the millions in endorsements he received if he was found guilty and stripped of his titles. The sharks are circling...

Frankly, testimony from former teammates is their word against his; if his blood tests have never conclusively proved a thing that trumps them (and I think that's only b/c he was smart enough to know how far to push the cheating myself, but that's just my opinion). That's what makes this a witch-hunt, and ridiculous beyond all measure. If the USADA threatened the teammates with investigating them if they didn't comply, then they have just damaged their own reputation beyond repair.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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24 Aug 2012 16:45 #13 by Something the Dog Said
Here is Lance's statement released to the public:
AUSTIN, Texas - August 23rd, 2012 - There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, “Enough is enough.” For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a two-year federal criminal investigation followed by Travis Tygart’s unconstitutional witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense.

I had hoped that a federal court would stop USADA’s charade. Although the court was sympathetic to my concerns and recognized the many improprieties and deficiencies in USADA’s motives, its conduct, and its process, the court ultimately decided that it could not intervene.

If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.

The bottom line is I played by the rules that were put in place by the UCI, WADA and USADA when I raced. The idea that athletes can be convicted today without positive A and B samples, under the same rules and procedures that apply to athletes with positive tests, perverts the system and creates a process where any begrudged ex-teammate can open a USADA case out of spite or for personal gain or a cheating cyclist can cut a sweetheart deal for themselves. It’s an unfair approach, applied selectively, in opposition to all the rules. It’s just not right.

USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles. I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours. We all raced together. For three weeks over the same roads, the same mountains, and against all the weather and elements that we had to confront. There were no shortcuts, there was no special treatment. The same courses, the same rules. The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that. Especially not Travis Tygart.

Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities. This October, my Foundation will celebrate 15 years of service to cancer survivors and the milestone of raising nearly $500 million. We have a lot of work to do and I’m looking forward to an end to this pointless distraction. I have a responsibility to all those who have stepped forward to devote their time and energy to the cancer cause. I will not stop fighting for that mission. Going forward, I am going to devote myself to raising my five beautiful (and energetic) kids, fighting cancer, and attempting to be the fittest 40-year old on the planet.

"Remember to always be yourself. Unless you can be batman. Then always be batman." Unknown

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25 Aug 2012 11:45 #14 by Rockdoc
Just read over an article, like so many, they write as if he is guilty because he refuses to spend huge amounts of money and time to fight a battle that was fought and won long ago. What gets me in this is the guilty verdict without one bit of evidence. Talk about judgmental. Talk about being hung by the press. They are coming out of the woodwork now to lambast Lance. Perhaps he did use PED. I really do not know. I can not accuse him of doing that just because of his performances on a bike. No he is guilty by virtue he does not defend himself, throw money down the tubes, and is stupid enough to place his family first. Yep, that is the justice we dole out in the press these days. Anything to sell an article. Simply disgusting.

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27 Aug 2012 07:38 #15 by UNDER MODERATION
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He left his wife as soon as he found out she had cancer, then he dumped his girlfriend when she caught it.

He's no hero- You don't do that to your wife, I don't care how much she nags or how many To Do lists she makes up every morning

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27 Aug 2012 08:07 #16 by Rockdoc
Oh right. You are another who knows what is in the mind of person when they make a choice. Interestingly enough, those accusations more often than not have their roots in ones personal psyche.

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27 Aug 2012 08:26 #17 by Rockdoc
One more thing. For anyone interested in how the USADA and its affiliates work, here is a very well written article in the LA times that skewers the real problem as it relates to ALL athletes big time or minor. I would encourage you to read it before you cast your hat into the ring and convict on the basis of USADA opinion.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-h ... umn?page=2

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27 Aug 2012 10:15 #18 by UNDER MODERATION
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Rockdoc wrote: Oh right. You are another who knows what is in the mind of person when they make a choice. Interestingly enough, those accusations more often than not have their roots in ones personal psyche.


I don't care what the circumstances are Rock- When your wife comes home from the doctor and tells you she has cancer you dump the girlfriends, cancel the poker parties and golf trips with the boys and focus everything you got on getting her better. Thats what a man does Rock. You don't run off with an international singing sensation.

So save your hero worship for someone who deserves it

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27 Aug 2012 12:16 #19 by Raees
I'm sorry he died before he could clear his name.

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27 Aug 2012 13:02 #20 by Nobody that matters

Raees wrote: I'm sorry he died before he could clear his name.



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Neil Armstrong died.

Lance Armstrong is alive and kicking.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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