Getting rid of Greenwich Mean Time

04 Nov 2011 11:34 #1 by ScienceChic
I'm all for more exact measurements! (Time's all relative anyhow and may not even flow in one direction like we perceive).

Does this mean we can get rid of Daylight Savings Time too?! :thumbsup: BTW, don't forget to turn back your clocks this weekend!

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-sci ... s-gmt.html
Scientists meet to discuss usefulness of GMT
November 3, 2011 by Marie-Pierre Ferey

For more than 120 years GMT has been the international standard for timekeeping, but it is now under threat from a new definition of time itself based not on the rotation of the Earth, but on atomic clocks. In January 2012, the International Telecommunication Union will meet in Geneva to vote on whether to adopt the new measure, despite protests from Britain.

In 1972 it was replaced in name by Universal Coordinated Time (UTC) but that essentially remained the same as GMT. UTC is based on about 400 atomic clocks at laboratories around the world but then corrected with "leap seconds" to align itself with the Earth's rotational speed, which fluctates.

But the tiny variations between Earth speed and atomic speed have become a problem for GPS, the global positioning systems and mobile phone networks on which the modern world relies. "We are starting to have parallel definitions of time. Imagine a world where there were two or three definitions of a kilogram."

The meeting in London will look at the implications of abolishing the leap seconds and moving fully to atomic time.


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04 Nov 2011 11:41 #2 by jf1acai
Since I use a watch primarily to figure out what day it is (or which hand is which :wink: ), I can't get real excited about a few leap seconds here or there :biggrin:

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04 Nov 2011 11:55 #3 by ScienceChic
But now that you're retired, you can just watch the seconds roll on by and not even care! tongue:

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04 Nov 2011 12:03 #4 by jf1acai
Yeah, I was looking at the alarm clock the other day and wondering why I keep it :biggrin:

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04 Nov 2011 12:17 - 04 Nov 2011 19:23 #5 by Wayne Harrison
I'm not understanding what keeping atomic time and GMT have to do with each other.

GMT is basically where the time "starts" in the world, not how the time is kept.

It's fun going to the Greenwich Observatory though. They have the GMT line (Rose Line) in the courtyard and you can straddle it, standing in both hemispheres at the same time.


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04 Nov 2011 12:23 #6 by Nobody that matters

Conservation Voice wrote: I'm not understanding what keeping atomic time and GMT have to do with each other.

GMT is basically where the time "starts" in the world, not how the time is kept.

It's fun going to the Greenwich Observatory though. They have the GMT line (Rose Line) in the courtyard and you can straddle it, standing in both hemispheres at the same time.



Without the leap seconds, they'll have to make the rose line mobile to allow for small fluctuations in the rotational speed of the earth. Couple of centuries from now and it could be somewhere out in Russia.

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04 Nov 2011 16:31 #7 by Grady
Gotta love the line "We are starting to have parallel definitions of time"

And just because it popped into my head.

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04 Nov 2011 19:21 #8 by Wayne Harrison

Nobody that matters wrote:

Conservation Voice wrote: I'm not understanding what keeping atomic time and GMT have to do with each other.

GMT is basically where the time "starts" in the world, not how the time is kept.

It's fun going to the Greenwich Observatory though. They have the GMT line (Rose Line) in the courtyard and you can straddle it, standing in both hemispheres at the same time.



Without the leap seconds, they'll have to make the rose line mobile to allow for small fluctuations in the rotational speed of the earth. Couple of centuries from now and it could be somewhere out in Russia.


Not really. The Rose Line is for hours, not for seconds, NTM. GMT or CUT is the 0 hour.

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04 Nov 2011 19:34 #9 by pacamom
Reminds me of this line. Anyone know where it is?

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04 Nov 2011 19:52 #10 by Wayne Harrison
Boulder!

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