2022 end OR 2023 NOPE not going away anytime soon

03 Mar 2021 10:57 #1 by homeagain
www.reuters.com/article/us-health-corona...nsight-idUKKBN2AV1T1

OOPS.....we changed our minds.....more info shows news that is NOT good.

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03 Mar 2021 18:09 #2 by ScienceChic
I don't believe the scientists have changed their minds, they always knew it was a possibility that the SARS-CoV-2 virus would become endemic, much as H1N1 and H3N3 variants of the influenza virus have. The more people who are infected, and the longer that an outbreak goes, the higher the risk/potential for mutations to occur that are stable and increase either the transmissibility or virulence of the virus (and evade natural immunity or vaccines made against the original strains).

David Leonhardt had a great Twitter thread on this, that not only included this link below, but many other excellent sources for points he made.

The coronavirus is here to stay — here’s what that means
A Nature survey shows many scientists expect the virus that causes COVID-19 to become endemic, but it could pose less danger over time.
Nicky Phillips, Nature | 16 February 2021

For much of the past year, life in Western Australia has been coronavirus-free. Friends gathered in pubs; people kissed and hugged their relatives; children went to school without temperature checks or wearing masks. The state maintained this enviable position only by placing heavy restrictions on travel and imposing lockdowns — some regions entered a snap lockdown at the beginning of the year after a security guard at a hotel where visitors were quarantined tested positive for the virus. But the experience in Western Australia has provided a glimpse into a life free from the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. If other regions, aided by vaccines, aimed for a similar zero-COVID strategy, then could the world hope to rid itself of the virus?

It’s a beautiful dream but most scientists think it’s improbable. In January, Nature asked more than 100 immunologists, infectious-disease researchers and virologists working on the coronavirus whether it could be eradicated. Almost 90% of respondents think that the coronavirus will become endemic — meaning that it will continue to circulate in pockets of the global population for years to come (see 'Endemic future').

“Eradicating this virus right now from the world is a lot like trying to plan the construction of a stepping-stone pathway to the Moon. It’s unrealistic,” says Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.

But failure to eradicate the virus does not mean that death, illness or social isolation will continue on the scales seen so far. The future will depend heavily on the type of immunity people acquire through infection or vaccination and how the virus evolves.


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04 Mar 2021 06:58 #3 by homeagain
My inner reaction was this.....IF U put it out there on a reality basis,the populace would freak....but, if U
move the "go'' dates in small increments at a time, it is MORE palatable and can be managed visually .

the "open" dates continue to move forward in time....SOME believe shutdown is effective, some believe
it is a conspiracy and an infringement on societal "rights."... the TRUTH is we do not know. and R fumbling
forward in the dark....BUT WE WERE WARNED BACK IN 2015....it WILL come and there was no preparation on an elementary level.

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04 Mar 2021 07:28 #4 by FredHayek
Thanks! And I was starting to think I was seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! We were watching an old Law and Order last night where a male doctor had inoculated his former lover with a SARS Coronavirus. I think this was back in 2001 or 2002, Toronto got hit. Clearly not as deadly and it sputtered out. I do wonder if some of the nations that didn't get hit as hard had a milder version of Covid from earlier.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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05 Mar 2021 06:39 #5 by homeagain
www.statnews.com/2021/03/04/the-short-te...-of-the-coronavirus/

TIME SPAN....short, mid and long term estimates....AGAIN, we R moving forward in the dark.

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05 Apr 2021 11:44 #6 by FredHayek
Good news! The Covid-19 death rate in America is the lowest it has been since March of 2020. Vaccines are working! Masks? More and more states are withdrawing mask mandates. And states that still have them like New York have higher death rates than free states like Texas.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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06 Apr 2021 08:31 #7 by homeagain
www.cnn.com/2021/04/06/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

MOST RECENT info.....here for awhile, herd immunity is a race

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21 Apr 2021 23:01 #8 by FredHayek
300,000 new infections in India announced today. While it looks like we are over the hump in America, looks like the world isn't. Hopefully the vaccination rates improve.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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