Bin Laden Dead - Liberal Threat Remains

I'm not trying to insult him, I'm trying to get him to come clean and admit his posturing was just that - posturing. I don't think he's so ignorant that he doesn't understand that a lot of the factors effecting the economy are not under the control of Obama.

But if he is....well, the thread is a non-starter.

AspenValley wrote: I'm not trying to insult him, I'm trying to get him to come clean and admit his posturing was just that - posturing. I don't think he's so ignorant that he doesn't understand that a lot of the factors effecting the economy are not under the control of Obama.

But if he is....well, the thread is a non-starter.

AV, I think many of use realize that Obama can't control some of the factors...but gee, at least let's start with some he can control.

residenttroll wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'm not trying to insult him, I'm trying to get him to come clean and admit his posturing was just that - posturing. I don't think he's so ignorant that he doesn't understand that a lot of the factors effecting the economy are not under the control of Obama.

But if he is....well, the thread is a non-starter.

AV, I think many of use realize that Obama can't control some of the factors...but gee, at least let's start with some he can control.

That's exactly what I asked for, RT, that we frame the discussion in terms of issues that Obama actually has control over, instead of a laundry list of complaints of things with causes ranging from unrest in the Middle East to economic policies that go back at least 30 years.

Ok, deal! Where should we start?

How about with specifics? Is there one specific policy in particiular of the Obama administration that you think is hampering the economy? How?

towermonkey wrote: ........ I do agree that printing money is on its way to causing drastic inflation and a very weak dollar. That is obviously intentional. We can pay back our national debt at reduced value. It will work too until the dollar is no longer the international standard. Then it all falls apart.

Pretty good summary TM. Inflation and weak dollar is correct. "we can pay back our debt" is a pipe dream. Never gonna happen. Its an "interest only" loan. I will die a happy man if one person in this country realizes this fact.

The future interest payment is what is important, not the debt. The treasury borrows on avg. at 5yrs. term, that means re-fi time every five years for you foreclosure people. At undefined future rates. Get out your calculator for 20 Trillion times 5%. (1 Trill) That is the problem. Duh. Take a look at historical interest rates. Bernake is a moron.

AspenValley wrote: How about with specifics? Is there one specific policy in particiular of the Obama administration that you think is hampering the economy? How?

Canada is about to show us how...

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Maybe this belongs in a separate thread, or in Q, or whatever.

I would be real happy if we could just get away from the stock comments about 'liberals think/do this', and 'conservatives think/do that', and the trite comments about hearing surprise in someone's voice, or 'spinning', and actually discuss an issue for a change.

I have no source to quote, but I doubt that any of the posters here actually fit the preconceived idea of 'liberal' or 'conservative'. I think most, if not all, of us have 'liberal' leanings in some areas, and 'conservative' leanings in other areas.

I won't even touch upon the idea that some/most/all posters here are 'wing-nuts', 'whack-jobs' etc. - oops, I just did!

How about we try, in honor of Mother's Day, to treat each other as if we were all at least semi-rational beings, who we could enjoy having a burger and fries, or garden salad, or whatever with.

I'm sure it would make MY mother happy, and probably yours also.

Happy Mother's Day to all!

Interesting that you decide to put that post in this thread JF. This thread has more actual discussion than most. I thought we were about to have a breakthrough and convert one of the knuckle dragging neocon scum to a human.

JF is my buddy, my pal, my friend....

Happy Mothers Day everyone.