GOP Lawmakers Offer Disaster Victims Prayers, But Not Aid

12 May 2011 14:44 #21 by Nmysys
Of course I do. What I was referring to was that all Govt. Insured and FNMA and FreddieMac loans in the area require flood insurance.

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12 May 2011 14:50 #22 by AspenValley
No, not in the AREA, within the 100 mile floodplain. The area affected is much, much bigger than that.

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12 May 2011 14:58 #23 by PrintSmith
Let's be accurate here AV. I don't think safety nets are the business of the federal government and it is only these that I advocate eliminating. The state government of Mississippi should have a plan, and the resources, to address the situation of its citizens who find themselves in need of temporary aid in the wake of a local disaster, as should every state whose borders are defined by the Mississippi River. If it needs additional resources it would also be proper for them to request additional aid from their sister states in the union either by direct appeal or by general appeal through the general government. That is not the same as those entities having an obligation to provide that aid. Associations in our form of government are voluntary, not compulsory. Charity is voluntary, not compulsory. It is my belief the absence of compulsory charity funded via the levying and collecting of federal taxes, there will be a greater, not a lessor, participation by the citizens of the states in those charity endeavors.

If you want proof of that, look to the history of the nation during the Great Depression when people would feed total strangers who came to their door compared to how such a situation would be handled today. Tell me what most of the people in this nation would do today during our current recession if a total stranger knocked on their door and asked them for a meal. Tell me that most of them would invite them to have a seat on their porch while they went inside and put a meal together for the person who knocked on their door. That is just one more thing we have the federated government to thank for as a result of their meddling.

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12 May 2011 15:05 #24 by Blazer Bob

LadyJazzer wrote: [Dang, I love "compassionate conservatism"... I could sit and watch it for hours... "Coming together in prayer" for the victims. How thoughtful... Are they sure they can spare it?


As opposed to compassionate liberalism?


FEMA Denies Texas Disaster Relief for Wildfires; Politics Suspected
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110504/tr_ ... uspected_1

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12 May 2011 15:07 #25 by Nmysys
I wonder why LJ didn't post that one Neptune.

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12 May 2011 15:07 #26 by AspenValley

PrintSmith wrote: Let's be accurate here AV.


1. You don't know much about the great state of Mississippi if you think it has the resources for such a fund.

2. You are depending on sentimental verbal accounts of people feeding strangers at their doors instead of fact in forming your opinion on this. Mythical accounts of the kindness of strangers aside, the facts don't support such a genial view of how actual impoverished people fared in the 1930s.

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12 May 2011 15:09 #27 by HEARTLESS
AV, read the article posted by neptunechimney, federal help isn't a given.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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12 May 2011 15:19 #28 by PrintSmith

AspenValley wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: Let's be accurate here AV.

1. You don't know much about the great state of Mississippi if you think it has the resources for such a fund.

It might if there were not so many federated government mandates sucking state taxes away in addition to the taxes remitted to the federal government by its citizens. How much of the 21% of the Colorado state budget that is spent on the health and welfare of its citizens is the result of federated mandates that include no accompanying funding from the federated government? How much more efficiently could the state regulate the dispersal of those funds if they didn't have to comply with one size fits all federal regulations?

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12 May 2011 15:24 #29 by AspenValley
As I said, PS, you seriously don't know much about Mississippi.

I'm quite sure that ZERO state funds there go towards any Federal anything, in fact, I am quite sure that Mississippi receives far more from the Federal government than it contributes, both in terms of personal taxes remitted and state revenues spent on Federal programs.

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12 May 2011 15:38 - 12 May 2011 15:45 #30 by LadyJazzer
For every dollar that Mississippi puts in to the Federal Gov't, it gets $1.84 cents back....

$10mil = $18.4mil, etc.....

The numbers are from "The Tax Foundation" Those aren't the newest numbers (2004), but it was the newest I could find.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... _feed.html



Edited to add: I found a chart for 2005...It went up from $1.84 to: $2.02....

So, they got back $2.02 for every dollar sent in......

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html

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