Federal and State Governments make more profit than Big Oil

13 May 2011 13:39 #1 by PrintSmith
Exxon makes a profit of $0.02 per gallon of fuel, the federated government makes a profit of $0.184 per gallon of fuel. Whose profit is obscene again?

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13 May 2011 13:57 #2 by BearMtnHIB
Exactly right- the government makes 9 times as much profit as the oil companies make!

And the liberals complain that oil companies are tyrants?

I know who the real tyrants are- not the companies.

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13 May 2011 13:57 #3 by Nmysys
But the federated profit can be distributed through the entitlement programs vis-a-vis Obama's Stash, and that makes it good. :VeryScared:

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13 May 2011 16:26 #4 by Rick
Can you imagine how expensive gas would be if the oil companies were all government owned and they were run like every other government program?

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13 May 2011 17:38 #5 by ScienceChic

PrintSmith wrote: Exxon makes a profit of $0.02 per gallon of fuel, the federated government makes a profit of $0.184 per gallon of fuel. Whose profit is obscene again?

Do you have a source for this PS?

Ah ha! Found it - it comes from Exxon itself! I'd be inclined to believe this more if it came from an independent financial analyst. Is that what they earn after paying their employees salaries, benefits, infrastructure, overhead, etc or before? Yes, they pay a lot in taxes, and must invest a lot in developing new sources, but they make a boat load too - what's the actual profit?
http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/201 ... er-gallon/

According to this post on Exxon Mobil’s Perspective Blog , http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2 ... ink-about/ “For every gallon of gasoline, diesel or finished products we manufactured and sold in the United States in the last three months of 2010, we earned a little more than 2 cents per gallon. That’s not a typo. Two cents.

Also according to their Perspectives blog, they make only 8 cents for every dollar of revenue on worldwide sales of their products. You know, if I were them, I'd start shifting my energy production to renewable sources - it'll be a lot more profitable! :thumbsup:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/d ... re_in.html
April 11, 2008

Q: Does the government really make more in taxes from the sale of a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?
A: Possibly. Both taxes and profits account for a large share, but which is larger depends on too many unknown factors to allow for a clear answer.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/13/news/ec ... /index.htm
Who gets rich off $3 gas - who doesn't
The guy running the service station makes just a few cents, while crude oil producers take the biggest chunk.
By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: March 19, 2008:

Okay, this information is completely unsubstantiated, but provides a list from which to start the analysis:
http://jb-williams.com/4-25-06.htm

Based upon a $3.00 gallon of gasoline, the average break-down is as follows.

Gasoline Retailer $.01 cents per gallon
Oil Company $.08 cents per gallon
Refining $.29 cents per gallon
Marketing/Distribution $.32 cents per gallon
Taxes $.59 cents per gallon
Cost of crude $1.71 per gallon (delivered)

Who is gouging who?

What I take away is this: No matter whether the price of a gallon of gas is $2.06 or $3.87, the fed tax is $0.18, period. State taxes vary and can add anywhere from $0.04 to $0.37. The extra profits that the oil producers make is getting put back into increasingly more difficult to extract sources of fuel (although I think this excuse is overplayed as there's currently still enough to easy supply to satisfy the current demand).

So it looks like the ones to be pissed at are the traders.

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13 May 2011 17:50 #6 by UNDER MODERATION

PrintSmith wrote: Exxon makes a profit of $0.02 per gallon of fuel, the federated government makes a profit of $0.184 per gallon of fuel. Whose profit is obscene again?


Profit? Learn the definition of the word sh**forbrains...Do you "guys" think roads build themselves, for free?

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13 May 2011 18:23 #7 by Rick
How much per gallon should an oil company be allowed to make? And, what do you suppose these greedy oil companies do with ther profits? Waiting for the "all knowing" to answer.....

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13 May 2011 18:34 #8 by Rick

Science Chic wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: Exxon makes a profit of $0.02 per gallon of fuel, the federated government makes a profit of $0.184 per gallon of fuel. Whose profit is obscene again?

Do you have a source for this PS?

Ah ha! Found it - it comes from Exxon itself! I'd be inclined to believe this more if it came from an independent financial analyst. Is that what they earn after paying their employees salaries, benefits, infrastructure, overhead, etc or before? Yes, they pay a lot in taxes, and must invest a lot in developing new sources, but they make a boat load too - what's the actual profit?
http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/201 ... er-gallon/

According to this post on Exxon Mobil’s Perspective Blog , http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2 ... ink-about/ “For every gallon of gasoline, diesel or finished products we manufactured and sold in the United States in the last three months of 2010, we earned a little more than 2 cents per gallon. That’s not a typo. Two cents.

Also according to their Perspectives blog, they make only 8 cents for every dollar of revenue on worldwide sales of their products. You know, if I were them, I'd start shifting my energy production to renewable sources - it'll be a lot more profitable! :thumbsup:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/d ... re_in.html
April 11, 2008

Q: Does the government really make more in taxes from the sale of a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies do?
A: Possibly. Both taxes and profits account for a large share, but which is larger depends on too many unknown factors to allow for a clear answer.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/13/news/ec ... /index.htm
Who gets rich off $3 gas - who doesn't
The guy running the service station makes just a few cents, while crude oil producers take the biggest chunk.
By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: March 19, 2008:

Okay, this information is completely unsubstantiated, but provides a list from which to start the analysis:
http://jb-williams.com/4-25-06.htm

Based upon a $3.00 gallon of gasoline, the average break-down is as follows.

Gasoline Retailer $.01 cents per gallon
Oil Company $.08 cents per gallon
Refining $.29 cents per gallon
Marketing/Distribution $.32 cents per gallon
Taxes $.59 cents per gallon
Cost of crude $1.71 per gallon (delivered)

Who is gouging who?

What I take away is this: No matter whether the price of a gallon of gas is $2.06 or $3.87, the fed tax is $0.18, period. State taxes vary and can add anywhere from $0.04 to $0.37. The extra profits that the oil producers make is getting put back into increasingly more difficult to extract sources of fuel (although I think this excuse is overplayed as there's currently still enough to easy supply to satisfy the current demand).

So it looks like the ones to be pissed at are the traders.

So basically, when Congress (some of Congress) gets all upset about high gas prices and big profits, they should remember that if the oil companies made ZERO profit, it really wouldn't mean much as far as gas prices go. And if oil companies make no profit, it WILL cost us more down the road because we can't dig up our own oil in our backyards. There always has to be an evil company to blame.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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13 May 2011 18:40 #9 by UNDER MODERATION
Nationilize the oil companies...Moving around, like my kids Healthcare is not something other people should make a profit on..Especially when we just spent a couple trillion of my tax dollars in Iraq. Thats my oil!

Nationalize Now

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&rlz=1W1ADF ... 334bd74320

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14 May 2011 09:48 #10 by LOL

So it looks like the ones to be pissed at are the traders.

Bingo!
I think the Exxon CEO said in the hearings this week that oil should be $60, its only high because of the futures traders. There is no current supply problem at all.

Raise the margin requirements on Future traders (its only around 6%). That should apply to all commodities.

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