Rockdoc Franz wrote: It matters little what fb does as my news source is not there or any one web site. Online newspapers are available from around the world and together they provide a much broader and less biased perspective.
Rockdoc, everything you said only means there is that much more of a rich personality profile on you..and that more international companies and governments have it.
I am not sure where I read it, but some obscure tech magazine, but they had proof that you are being tracked by many firms using far more than IP addresses and IP's used. They did experiments where indivuals where asked to use different computers...say one in an office in LA and another in a Hotel in NV. They did not doing any logging in to sites, nothing that would specifically ID them. The cashes of these computers were examined and they found identifiers in page code that were extremely specific about the users that went there. Essentially Huffposts assigned something like ARpli87@!#isssk65s to you when you go in LA....and then somehow they figure out it is you when you go again from another source...that same random code is found when you go to Huffpost again in that NV hotel, you still never logged in, when someone else does the same thing, they get a different, but unique to them number/code. They believed it had to do with a iterative algorythem where it starts with a list of all known users. Only one or two sites visited wont do it, but a few more will narrow things down greatly. Then the speed at which you type or the patterns of mouse sweeping narrow it down further..other people and associations that used that computer before,etc. . Now if you have ever logged into a site, forget about it, they now associate these and many other patterns, including the shopping and stuff you already thought about, with you and your name, address and all other real attributes that are already in 100's of places on the web, even if you never used it before yesterday. Then if you ever log onto two sites at once or in sequence of if there are data sharing or associations between the two, your alternative signitures are shared and your ID can be known. Some of the stuff they could figure out, some of it was a complete mystery, how such a specific identifier could be narrowed down.
Wish I had a link. It just makes me think we could fix the PO by letting them open letters and sell the info, like we let every company we interact with on the internet to do, it would only be fair.
I wish you had a link too. Because as a computer programmer of 40 years, a lot of your "facts" above sound like science fiction. I've been on and using the internet way before it was the World Wide Web, I go back to the DARPA days, and I have a more than adequate education of how things work. What you described above is not possible, at least in the way you are trying to relate. I'm not saying it can't happen, all I'm saying is in the least, there are missing points in your narrative above, it just doesn't add up.
Be careful of what you ask for. That's a lesson that Max Schrems of Vienna, Austria, learned the hard way when he sent a formal request to Facebook citing European law and asking for a copy of every piece of personal information that the world’s largest social network had collected on him.
After a wait, the 24 year-old law student got what he was seeking: a CD with all his data stored on it - 1,222 files in all. The collection of PDF format documents was roughly the length Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace but told a more mundane story: a record of Schrems' years-long relationship with the world's largest social network.
The archive captured friend requests, former or alternative names and email addresses, employment and relationship statuses and photos, in some cases with their GPS locations included, to name a few. To Schrems' dismay, much of the data he received from the network was information he thought he had deleted. Facebook, it seems, doesn't think much of the Delete key and continued to hold copies of the data on its servers.
So how much data is Facebook collecting on you? To help laypeople understand, the Web site Taz.de has taken Schrems' data and visualized in different ways. You can find them
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.You can find a list of the groups of data disclosed to Schrems by Facebook
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
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Rockdoc Franz wrote: It matters little what fb does as my news source is not there or any one web site. Online newspapers are available from around the world and together they provide a much broader and less biased perspective.
Rockdoc, everything you said only means there is that much more of a rich personality profile on you..and that more international companies and governments have it.
I am not sure where I read it, but some obscure tech magazine, but they had proof that you are being tracked by many firms using far more than IP addresses and IP's used. They did experiments where indivuals where asked to use different computers...say one in an office in LA and another in a Hotel in NV. They did not doing any logging in to sites, nothing that would specifically ID them. The cashes of these computers were examined and they found identifiers in page code that were extremely specific about the users that went there. Essentially Huffposts assigned something like ARpli87@!#isssk65s to you when you go in LA....and then somehow they figure out it is you when you go again from another source...that same random code is found when you go to Huffpost again in that NV hotel, you still never logged in, when someone else does the same thing, they get a different, but unique to them number/code. They believed it had to do with a iterative algorythem where it starts with a list of all known users. Only one or two sites visited wont do it, but a few more will narrow things down greatly. Then the speed at which you type or the patterns of mouse sweeping narrow it down further..other people and associations that used that computer before,etc. . Now if you have ever logged into a site, forget about it, they now associate these and many other patterns, including the shopping and stuff you already thought about, with you and your name, address and all other real attributes that are already in 100's of places on the web, even if you never used it before yesterday. Then if you ever log onto two sites at once or in sequence of if there are data sharing or associations between the two, your alternative signitures are shared and your ID can be known. Some of the stuff they could figure out, some of it was a complete mystery, how such a specific identifier could be narrowed down.
Wish I had a link. It just makes me think we could fix the PO by letting them open letters and sell the info, like we let every company we interact with on the internet to do, it would only be fair.
I wish you had a link too. Because as a computer programmer of 40 years, a lot of your "facts" above sound like science fiction. I've been on and using the internet way before it was the World Wide Web, I go back to the DARPA days, and I have a more than adequate education of how things work. What you described above is not possible, at least in the way you are trying to relate. I'm not saying it can't happen, all I'm saying is in the least, there are missing points in your narrative above, it just doesn't add up.
Wish you had a link to the info.
I said I don't know what I don't know.
Here is a related link, though not the one I was talking about.
As someone in the know, can you share something that many of us, or perhaps just me would like to know.....how to browse the internet privately, before it is outright illegal to do so?
