One foot in the grave for ObamaCare in 11th Circuit

11 Jun 2011 12:05 #31 by Pony Soldier
Have a nice day archer. I don't have time to play your games.

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11 Jun 2011 12:06 #32 by archer
you just don't like the questions...

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11 Jun 2011 12:22 #33 by Pony Soldier
If you want to have a discussion, start with what I said, not cherry picking statements out of context to argue with. By your statement "some are arguing that if we paid for our own medical needs the cost would go down......ok, that's a good thing", I can only assume you mean me instead of some or you are preparing for your latest strawman. I didn't say that, and I didn't see anyone else here say that. Shopping for less expensive care or procedures is not the same thing as "costs would go down". I never said that costs would go down if we switched to Medicare for all. I said that we would lose many medical professionals because Medicare doesn't pay enough. Not paying enough does not equate to costs going down.

Quit trying to twist every word I type.

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11 Jun 2011 12:23 #34 by archer
I posted it the way I did because I was not referring to you.....but to previous posters.

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11 Jun 2011 12:25 #35 by archer
Have you actually compared what medicare pays vs private insurance? It is not as big a gap as you think. I switched in the middle of Chemo from BC/BS to medicare and the difference in payments for the treatments was less than 5%. Now I'm sure there are some instances where the gap is bigger, but so far I haven't seen them.

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11 Jun 2011 12:28 #36 by archer
as for losing doctors, I am currently switching to a practice that takes only medicare patients.....they have multiple offices in the denver area, including one here in the foothills, and they are expanding fairly quickly from one office many years ago. If the medicare reimbursement is so bad, why is this practice thriving?

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11 Jun 2011 17:02 #37 by Rick

MsMAM wrote:

CriticalBill wrote: <snip> and he is right btw.


LOL - you have an awfully high opinion of yourself.

HUH? If you think PS and I are the same person, you probably ought to read our posts (unless you think I'm the drunk version of PS :biggrin: )

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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11 Jun 2011 17:49 #38 by MsMAM

CriticalBill wrote:

MsMAM wrote:

CriticalBill wrote: <snip> and he is right btw.


LOL - you have an awfully high opinion of yourself.

HUH? If you think PS and I are the same person, you probably ought to read our posts (unless you think I'm the drunk version of PS :biggrin: )


PS and I are friends. We know each other. You stated a fact (in your own mind). PS ONLY states his opinion. IMHO - you were NOT right.

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12 Jun 2011 09:10 #39 by Rick

MsMAM wrote:

CriticalBill wrote:

MsMAM wrote:

CriticalBill wrote: <snip> and he is right btw.


LOL - you have an awfully high opinion of yourself.

HUH? If you think PS and I are the same person, you probably ought to read our posts (unless you think I'm the drunk version of PS :biggrin: )


PS and I are friends. We know each other. You stated a fact (in your own mind). PS ONLY states his opinion. IMHO - you were NOT right.

Ok rule maker, so I guess I can't say "he's right" without having also including "imo"? Should we make that a solid rule to apease you?
And instead of making an insult, why not pose a counter argument? Maybe that's too much work for you.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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12 Jun 2011 16:29 #40 by poubelle
Medicare for all. And if that is too scary to start with, lets lower the age to 50 and see what happens. Have any of you naysayers ever considered how a universal, single-payer health system (with a supplemental insurance model for those who desire extra coverage) would impact so many other aspects of our lives? From employer-mandated worker's comp to auto insurance to medical costs related to tort cases, etc. Think beyond your narrow-minded selfishness and consider how out-of-control medical/insurance costs are driving so much of our economy into the crapper. Think...

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