One foot in the grave for ObamaCare in 11th Circuit

09 Jun 2011 18:12 #1 by PrintSmith

A federal appeals court in Atlanta was openly skeptical Wednesday that the sweeping health care reform law championed by President Barack Obama would survive constitutional scrutiny.

"If we uphold the individual mandate in this case, are there any limits on congressional power?" asked Judge Joel Dubina, who was named to the bench by President George H.W. Bush. His daughter is a first-term GOP congresswoman from Alabama, Rep. Martha Dubina Roby.

The two other judges who heard the nearly 2 1/2 hours of arguments -- Judges Frank Hull and Stanley Marcus -- were also concerned the law went too far in mandating that states expand various Medicare health coverage requirements. Both judges were appointed by President Bill Clinton.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/08/ ... index.html

The sooner the other foot joins it, the sooner we can put this unconstitutional piece of legislation on the garbage heap of history where it belongs..........

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09 Jun 2011 18:21 - 09 Jun 2011 20:51 #2 by LOL
The amazing thing about all this is how obviously unconstitutional and un-american this law is, and how it ever got passed in the first place? What a huge friggin waste of time and money, when some simple tax incentives, health savings accounts, and high risk pool subsidies could have helped alot sooner without a massive, illegal, long delayed, over-priced, bureaucratic Federal take-over. Hoping and waiting for 2014 for free Obamacare. (so I can retire at 50 and kick back, screw working).

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09 Jun 2011 18:39 #3 by Jekyll
To hell with Obamacare. I'm tired of hearing about the bs. Goodbye bs. Cry babies and people that wanna make people pay for their problems should just find a hole. Awwwww, so harsh. So what, I'm an a$$hole.

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09 Jun 2011 20:29 #4 by Blazer Bob

PrintSmith wrote:

A federal appeals court in Atlanta was openly skeptical Wednesday that the sweeping health care reform law championed by President Barack Obama would survive constitutional scrutiny.

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I recall the same kind of conservative speculation before the AZ judge struck down important parts of their illegals legislation.

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09 Jun 2011 21:15 #5 by Rick
Ya, I'm not getting excited anytime soon. This is going to put this country in a tizzy during (I predict) the great recession. The administration's number one goal will not go away very easy, there are many more liberal judges to come.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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09 Jun 2011 23:09 #6 by MsMAM
I doubt that I will have health care when I retire. That is a concern for me since rate will be high for my age...

I don't understand why health care should be for profit.

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10 Jun 2011 07:08 #7 by LOL

Acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Kumar Katyal presented the Department of Health and Human Services' case. He specifically addressed the individual mandate. Katyal said it was a tax and, therefore, constitutional.


Is it a tax or a penalty? It keeps changing. The way the penalty/tax is set up, it is too small, and uncollectable. Just change your withholding and don't pay it. The IRS has stated they won't go after you. (for now). :)

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10 Jun 2011 07:11 #8 by FredHayek

MsMAM wrote: I doubt that I will have health care when I retire. That is a concern for me since rate will be high for my age...

I don't understand why health care should be for profit.


Would you want to be in a health care system where they were paid the same whether they treated you or not?

Back on topic, I don't think Obamacare will be eliminated as easily as the righties here. And they could proceed even without the individual mandate.

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10 Jun 2011 07:44 #9 by Rick

SS109 wrote:

MsMAM wrote: I doubt that I will have health care when I retire. That is a concern for me since rate will be high for my age...

I don't understand why health care should be for profit.


Would you want to be in a health care system where they were paid the same whether they treated you or not?

Back on topic, I don't think Obamacare will be eliminated as easily as the righties here. And they could proceed even without the individual mandate.

Without the mandate, this version couldn't be sustained (and probably can't even with the mandate).

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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10 Jun 2011 12:24 #10 by PrintSmith

MsMAM wrote: I doubt that I will have health care when I retire. That is a concern for me since rate will be high for my age...

I don't understand why health care should be for profit.

For the same reason food, clothing and shelter are for profit enterprises. It encourages people to provide the services necessary to sustain life. The profit earned from the sale of medicine and care is what encourages people and companies to search for new medicines and care that will bring further benefit.

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