A Stupidity Tax

21 Jun 2011 14:44 #51 by LadyJazzer
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Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true.

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21 Jun 2011 14:47 #52 by BearMtnHIB
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OK- I'll concede- the taxes are either...

1) paid for by the consumer or (2)
results in damage to the economy (as your farmer example shows) - ie less business is generated or a company is no longer profitable so it goes out of business.

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21 Jun 2011 14:49 #53 by LadyJazzer
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"Going out of business" is right-wing hysteria... Very few businesses "go out of business" because of incremental increases in business taxes... But if "The Sky Is Falling" is what makes you feel better, have at it.

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21 Jun 2011 17:21 #54 by AV8OR
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LadyJazzer wrote: Very few businesses "go out of business" because of incremental increases in business taxes


Looks like something a lefty nut-job would write - and believe!

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21 Jun 2011 17:33 #55 by LOL
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Increase Corporate tax rates +1%

It is an interesting mathematical brain teaser. Follow the money and the balance sheet.

In the static situation, all revenues and therefore taxes are paid by customers.

In the dynamic situation, year-over-year say, a delta increase of 1% in corp income taxes, results in a decrease in net income for the evil corporation.

Now it gets complicated. It could reduce (taxable) dividends to shareholders (which were taxed 2x). It could reduce net income used to grow the business. (and jobs). It could reduce capital used to buy back shares, increasing stock price, and cap gains taxes. There is no single answer in the dynamic model. Prices for products and services are generally set by market forces, which are complex. If the co. has no pricing power (no monopoly) they will eat it for awhile, then adjust, and eventually lay off some employees, cut pay/bennys, move labor to China, or lobby for some new tax deductions. Simple really. Evil corps. will change though, we are not talking about the US post office here, stuck in the 1950's (and losing tens of billions/yr).

End of Joe's Capitalism 101 rant. :)

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