College Degree Isn't Worth the Debt!

BearMtnHIB wrote: Sometimes I wonder where the common sense was when these students got themselves into this much debt- suckered by the liberal college education system.

I think they do there best to perpetuate the belief, but I do not think you can lay it at their door step.

My folks were depression era and worked in the trenches their whole life's. They saw college as a way for their kids to succeed long before a "liberal college education" was a glimmer in some communists eye. Back then, they were right.

Our society has changed, it is taking time for our cultural precepts to catch up.

I've said it before and I will say it again - college is not necessary for all.

Some sort of vocational training can be MUCH more valuable.

There is way too much importance placed on a college degree, IMO.

I have to agree that college is not necessary for all. I have a couple friends that skipped college and did well in business, or working in skilled fields like mechanics.

I also question how smart college students are being about their expenses. I can remember working the whole time thru college paying for my own room and board and expenses, including health insurance. Now days it seems like everyone wants to just party and borrow all expenses. What happened to working? I did it starting in HS, all the way thru grad school. Work work!

I suspect that there are kids doing the same today, but the $$ cost is so much higher now. I recall plenty of 'partiers' when I was in college too

My wife and I are contributing to the tuition and living expenses of a kid studying at Oklahoma University. She receives support from four other sponsors. Her request for support demonstrated that she had researched the field in which she plans to enter and will most likely be successful in her field. She is a serious student and her GPA reflects this. In lieu of debt she will be obliged to sponsor others as her financial ability allows.

This is how it should be done. And in some cultures, how it IS done.

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That's reasonable, MB. So is corporate sponsorship in return for a set number of years of work after graduation. But what happens if she is never able to sponsor someone else?

Nor can every parent contribute to their child's education, so it's good that you were able to do so, but please don't look down on those who just could not.

However, not everyone can have degrees in the sciences and math. There are already a glut of these people.

There are needs for people with other types of education as well.

archer wrote: Yeah...that was the fear when Canada went to single payer universal healthcare....only it didn't happen. Medicine is stll a good profession there....and in the UK...and on every other nation that has single payer ....the sky did not fall....the doctors did not flee...people got treated and cured.

Not true about the UK, all the native born people are choosing to not go into medicine and you are likely to have a foreign national from India or Pakistan whose language skills might not be up to snuff.

And this is with British colleges being much cheaper because of goverment subsidies than American institutions.

But back on topic, I see more requirements for college degrees than ever before. Considering how ignorant so many of our high school graduates are, it only makes sense to demand 4 more years of schooling, and in this job market, easy to get away with for employers.

That has also been true here....I find many foreign born and trained physicians here....especially down in AZ. I doubt that a single payer system is the cause of it, or even a contributing factor.

So then do you wonder why we have to import so many doctors or why we still have such a shortage? It's too expensive to produce anything in the US and it's also becoming to expensive to service as well.

And of course a single payer system is not the cause....we don't even have one (yet). And to think that a single payer system would not be a disincentive to get into the medical field is beyond me. If the government would have controlled my industry when I decided to start my own business, I would have never bothered (there are limited controls but not on income potential).