Obama approval at 43%

If that is what you posted on some forum somewhere, then you were absolutely RIGHT! I applaud you.

Now tell us about the last time you were in court and about to be sentenced 11 years ago.

Vice Lord wrote: I know a guy that bred a wolf with a german shepard (?) or something, and he lost his badge and his job of 25 years because of it..He was convicted of felony dog breeding. Whata country!

Isn't felony dog breeding beastiality? not animal hubandry.

major bean wrote: I applaud you.

Now tell us about the last time you were in court and about to be sentenced 11 years ago.

Well..I ah had a little incident with an guy at the Old Gin Rummy Club in denver a few years back. It involved me alledgidly hitting him with a baseball bat. I requested a jury trial and represented myself. After charming the pants off of some of the jurors I was found innocent of the felony charge. All the men on the jury voted to convict and the 4 females voted me not guilty, but on the way out one female juror gave me a big hug by the elevator, then stuck her finger in my face and said "And don't do it again!"

lol

major bean wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: I know a guy that bred a wolf with a german shepard (?) or something, and he lost his badge and his job of 25 years because of it..He was convicted of felony dog breeding. Whata country!

Isn't felony dog breeding beastiality? not animal hubandry.

I'm just telling you what he told me...And I do know he owned a few wolf hybreds...

archer wrote:

major bean wrote: Sounds like you cannot consider Obama independently. You use any argument to justify, not evaluate. You cannot be an openminded, thoughtful voter.

What would you know about openminded thoughtful voters? I have never seen a mind so closed and prejudiced as yours...when anyone disagrees with you,you tell them to shut up...if they won't shut up you demean them. You don't know what those words mean. I believe you vote on your emotions...your pure hatred for liberals and others who believe in independent thought.

Oh, well said.

I vote according to someone's track record, their merit, what they will bring to the office, how high their "promises" score on the bullcrap-o-meter, and ability to act like an intelligent adult without having to try to undermine the other candidate. While we could not vote it in, I reference the fairly recent Denver mayoral campaign- the one who did not attempt to smear his fellow candidates is the one who won - even though they are still attempting to smear him - oh wait, another black man too, eh?

When you start voting on candiate merit and not on the color or his skin and petty things that were already dealt with long before the person was allowed to become a candidate, then start telling me how thoughtful and openminded a voter you are, MB.

Oh, and history is brought up because A. it is relevant. You talk about not being able to see a candidate for himself, but all too often you attribute the actions of past presidents as the fault of the cuirrent president - sorry, that doesn't work. B. Some of our best presidents - the ones who did the best for our country - had the worst approval ratings for their times (or would have, if the poll had been done. Newspaper articles make it clear they were hated.) And some of our worst presidents were thought to be the best for the job at the time.

Bottom line, you cannot evaluate the future effects of policies put into play now - unless you have a time machine in your basement and have gone to the future to see how much Oboma messed up the country. Could well be his actions now make the country the best its ever been in 10, 15 years - and you CANNOT know that, you can only conjecture and whinge and whine - so please save your breath.

How's your birth certificate? If I scan it, will an "expert" from Adobe tell me how fake yours is too?

It's a well-known and simple trick to open a PDF file, manipulate it to have "layers" and then save it, and cry that it's been "tampered with"...I can do it in 12 seconds....

:Snooze

LadyJazzer wrote: It's a well-known and simple trick to open a PDF file, manipulate it to have "layers" and then save it, and cry that it's been "tampered with"...I can do it in 12 seconds....

:Snooze

What is your basis for an accusation that the file was tampered with in this manner. The day that it was posted by Obama, I demonstrated that it was layered and posted that on this forum. It was immediately stated by some psuedo-experts on this forum that the layering was normal.
It was layered from "day one".
This original pdf is still available for download all over the internet. it has not been manipulated by the experts to alter it from the original.
You are making assumptions from your ignorance of digital files.

You are making assumptions--with no proof--that your so-called "experts" DIDN'T alter it from the original.

Get back to me when you can PROVE otherwise.

What?! The expert, Mara Zebest, has staked her professional reputation upon her analysis of this file. Zebeth has co-authored no less than 17 books on the subject of advanced computer graphics, at least one of which sit on the shelves of virtually every advanced photoshop user in every English-speaking country. In fact, she is far and away the most well-recognized in the business of Adobe. Everyone in the business, and most higher educational schools with a graphic department, have a book with her name on it up front on a shelf. Her MAINSTREAM credentials are so high as to be realistically unassailable. Mara Zebest is the author of several books on how to use computers and alter documents.

What kind of proof would be convincing to you, considering your bias?

Here are a couple of books by Mara Zebest (Nathanson)

Inside Photoshop 7
ISBN-13: 9780735712416
ISBN-10: 0735712417

Inside Adobe Photoshop 6
ISBN-13: 9780735710382
ISBN-10: 0735710384