JFK agrees. Raising Taxes Doesn't Add Revenue

Well, I'll let you run your own numbers... These are pretty self-evident...But I'm sure you'll twist yourself into a knot trying to find a way to make them come out to support your conclusions...

SS109 wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'd have had a heck of lot of "confidence" from the "tone being set" under Reagan if I'd been a military contractor. Otherwise, not so much.

Forgetting how bad Carter had left things with stagflation, energy woes, and high unemployment?

Reagan turned it around in a couple years, Barack is just making it worse after spending trillions.

Stagflation and energy woes started under Nixon, not Carter.

AspenValley wrote:

SS109 wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'd have had a heck of lot of "confidence" from the "tone being set" under Reagan if I'd been a military contractor. Otherwise, not so much.

Forgetting how bad Carter had left things with stagflation, energy woes, and high unemployment?

Reagan turned it around in a couple years, Barack is just making it worse after spending trillions.

Stagflation and energy woes started under Nixon, not Carter.

As a result of what AV - what caused stagflation to begin during the Nixon years? What policies of Carter made the situation better instead of worse? How much did the lack of confidence in the wannabe national government as a result of Watergate play into feeding that stagnation and how did Carter and his agenda make that situation better instead of worse? No one has any confidence in Obama or the Congress at the moment. Not the left, the middle nor the right. They all have their favored scapegoats within the wannabe national government that they blame, but the bottom line is that almost to a person we have come to the conclusion that the wannabe national government is absolutely clueless on how to solve the problem they created.

PrintSmith wrote: What runs up the debt is Republican presidents compromising with Democrat Congresses. Care to run that same graph showing the debt accumulation according to party control of Congress? I'm betting not since about 70% of the debt was accumulated under that scenario.

They are all trying to ignore that chart. It clearly shows which party is in control of the spending when it goes up. The Democrats. they just keep using the same old line..... but, but, but....... Clinton was good!

SS109 wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'd have had a heck of lot of "confidence" from the "tone being set" under Reagan if I'd been a military contractor. Otherwise, not so much.

Forgetting how bad Carter had left things with stagflation, energy woes, and high unemployment?

Reagan turned it around in a couple years, Barack is just making it worse after spending trillions.

Exactly! Can you imagine if they would have given Bush trillions to fix Clinton's recession? Or Given Reagan trillions to clean up Carters mess? They didn't need it and still did 100 times better than Obama who was HANDED trilllions to fix things and STILL couldn't!

PrintSmith wrote:

AspenValley wrote:

SS109 wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'd have had a heck of lot of "confidence" from the "tone being set" under Reagan if I'd been a military contractor. Otherwise, not so much.

Forgetting how bad Carter had left things with stagflation, energy woes, and high unemployment?

Reagan turned it around in a couple years, Barack is just making it worse after spending trillions.

Stagflation and energy woes started under Nixon, not Carter.

As a result of what AV - what caused stagflation to begin during the Nixon years? What policies of Carter made the situation better instead of worse? How much did the lack of confidence in the wannabe national government as a result of Watergate play into feeding that stagnation and how did Carter and his agenda make that situation better instead of worse? No one has any confidence in Obama or the Congress at the moment. Not the left, the middle nor the right. They all have their favored scapegoats within the wannabe national government that they blame, but the bottom line is that almost to a person we have come to the conclusion that the wannabe national government is absolutely clueless on how to solve the problem they created.

You know, all I did was state a fact. Facts don't need justification.

AspenValley wrote:

PrintSmith wrote:

AspenValley wrote:

SS109 wrote:

AspenValley wrote: I'd have had a heck of lot of "confidence" from the "tone being set" under Reagan if I'd been a military contractor. Otherwise, not so much.

Forgetting how bad Carter had left things with stagflation, energy woes, and high unemployment?

Reagan turned it around in a couple years, Barack is just making it worse after spending trillions.

Stagflation and energy woes started under Nixon, not Carter.

As a result of what AV - what caused stagflation to begin during the Nixon years? What policies of Carter made the situation better instead of worse? How much did the lack of confidence in the wannabe national government as a result of Watergate play into feeding that stagnation and how did Carter and his agenda make that situation better instead of worse? No one has any confidence in Obama or the Congress at the moment. Not the left, the middle nor the right. They all have their favored scapegoats within the wannabe national government that they blame, but the bottom line is that almost to a person we have come to the conclusion that the wannabe national government is absolutely clueless on how to solve the problem they created.

You know, all I did was state a fact. Facts don't need justification.

They do when you're trying to spin an argument to a preconceived conclusion.

Can any one remember conservatives here ever assigning any blame for this economy on Republicans? I wonder how the economy is under that rock where they live.

archer wrote: Can any one remember conservatives here ever assigning any blame for this economy on Republicans? I wonder how the economy is under that rock where they live.

Absolutely I have! 1999 the Republicans teamed up with the Dems with the housing de-regulation bill. CLINTON signed it but they should never have given it to him. I have always said that was a mistake. And in 2007-2008 when the Dems took over all of congress and started sending out of control spending bills to Bush, he should have broke out the veto pen over and over! SO I will admit when the R's screw up. Will you admit that Obama has? Dems still think Obama is a GOD!

And what conclusions do you reach when you look at an 82% increase in value of the national production in 8 years and a reduction of inflation from 13.5% annually down to a little over 4% annually over that same 8 years Kate? What conclusion do you reach when you look at 90% plus of the electoral college vote in 2 straight elections regarding the confidence of the population in the president they have elected?

I will grant you that the 2008 election was a referendum on the final years of the Bush presidency, but along with that comes the realization that the election in 1980 was a referendum on the Carter presidency. Think Obama is going to have a 90% plus victory in the 2012 votes cast for his hoped for second term? I didn't think so. Even dyed in the wool regressives aren't that delusional.