Get Ready for a 70% Marginal Tax Rate

Soulshiner wrote: It seems to me that the Tea Party is not interested in America, just themselves. That's how they see it, they are the only true Americans and everyone else are parasites that are trying to destroy THEIR country. The Tea Party are such patriots every time someone utters the word succession, they giggle and clap like a little girl getting a pony for their birthday.

You have a false sense of reality. What evidence do you have to support such a claim? Did you hear it from Rachel Madcow?

Here are some facts for you. Hiking Taxes to Pay for Entitlements Would Require Doubling Tax Rates


http://www.heritage.org/BudgetChartbook ... -tax-rates

conifermtman wrote:

Soulshiner wrote: It seems to me that the Tea Party is not interested in America, just themselves. That's how they see it, they are the only true Americans and everyone else are parasites that are trying to destroy THEIR country. The Tea Party are such patriots every time someone utters the word succession, they giggle and clap like a little girl getting a pony for their birthday.

You have a false sense of reality. What evidence do you have to support such a claim? Did you hear it from Rachel Madcow?

There isn't any. It's the smell of desparation.

conifermtman wrote: I call bullsh** on that comment. If it were not for the Tea Party it would be business as usual in Washington. .

Instead of business as usual, the tea party wants to give is a return to the two class system in this country. Sure they want spending cuts.....but not on anything that will effect their wealthy donors or big corporations....no, they want the poor and the middle class and the seniors to bear all the burden for getting our fiscal house in order. I call bulls**t on that idea.....EVERYONE needs to sacrifice in this country. The Tea Party is mixing poison into their tea and you conservatives are drinking it down.

Enjoy while you can, because if they do take the helm of this country there won't be a USA as we know it in 10 years. We will look like any other run of the mill 3rd world country with a ruling class and the poor. The pictures of starving citizens on TV will not be from Africa, they will be from Detroit, or Burmingham, or Denver. And no.....I don't think I am exaggerating.

archer wrote:

conifermtman wrote: I call bullsh** on that comment. If it were not for the Tea Party it would be business as usual in Washington. .

Instead of business as usual, the tea party wants to give is a return to the two class system in this country. Sure they want spending cuts.....but not on anything that will effect their wealthy donors or big corporations....no, they want the poor and the middle class and the seniors to bear all the burden for getting our fiscal house in order. I call bulls**t on that idea.....EVERYONE needs to sacrifice in this country. The Tea Party is mixing poison into their tea and you conservatives are drinking it down.

Enjoy while you can, because if they do take the helm of this country there won't be a USA as we know it in 10 years. We will look like any other run of the mill 3rd world country with a ruling class and the poor. The pictures of starving citizens on TV will not be from Africa, they will be from Detroit, or Burmingham, or Denver. And no.....I don't think I am exaggerating.

Keep on piling it on higher and deeper. No one expects poor people to finance our way out of the debt crisis. That is a silly notion that libs like you believe in. It's silly because the definition of poor means they lack wealth in the first place. However, that does not mean that this country can afford huge wealth transfers in the form of social programs. Clearly we can't when forty cents of every dollar needs to be borrowed. The rich in this country already make up for most of the tax receipts in this country. Even if you tax them at 50 or 90% of their income it would not make up for the shortfall in spending. What is wrong with people like you when you think its OK to expand the government beyond 20% of GDP and not pay for it? You could not run your own household this way, you would be bankrupt.

conifermtman wrote:

archer wrote:

conifermtman wrote: I call bullsh** on that comment. If it were not for the Tea Party it would be business as usual in Washington. .

Instead of business as usual, the tea party wants to give is a return to the two class system in this country. Sure they want spending cuts.....but not on anything that will effect their wealthy donors or big corporations....no, they want the poor and the middle class and the seniors to bear all the burden for getting our fiscal house in order. I call bulls**t on that idea.....EVERYONE needs to sacrifice in this country. The Tea Party is mixing poison into their tea and you conservatives are drinking it down.

Enjoy while you can, because if they do take the helm of this country there won't be a USA as we know it in 10 years. We will look like any other run of the mill 3rd world country with a ruling class and the poor. The pictures of starving citizens on TV will not be from Africa, they will be from Detroit, or Burmingham, or Denver. And no.....I don't think I am exaggerating.

Keep on piling it on higher and deeper. No one expects poor people to finance our way out of the debt crisis. That is a silly notion that libs like you believe in. It's silly because the definition of poor means they lack wealth in the first place.

cutting back on medicaid benefits doesn't effect the poor? who knew????? The poor aren't just those who have no work, we have working poor, living below the poverty line who cannot afford to lose any more ground in this country. I've heard tea party members call for removal of the minimum wage......you don't think that will effect the working poor?

However, that does not mean that this country can afford huge wealth transfers in the form of social programs. Clearly we can't when forty cents of every dollar needs to be borrowed. The rich in this country already make up for most of the tax receipts in this country. Even if you tax them at 50 or 90% of their income it would not make up for the shortfall in spending. What is wrong with people like you when you think its OK to expand the government beyond 20% of GDP and not pay for it? You could not run your own household this way, you would be bankrupt.

I could not get my own household out of debt if I was only willing to cut spending and not increase revenue. And no.....cutting taxes does not increase revenue no matter how many times the GOP tells you it does. They are WRONG!

Please show where I ever, ever said that raising tax rates on the rich would get us out of this mess.......it is just one of many tools we need to use to really address the economic problems of this country. But God forbid we should ever touch a conservative's sacred cow.....you all have spent so much time in bed with the wealthy and big corporations you have bed sores.

Wily Fox aka Angela wrote: I felt sorry for Boehner the day after the 2010 elections. I think he truly wants to find middle ground to get things done, but half of his caucus had the approach of "my way or the highway". The country will soon tire of this and kick them out to get things moving again. The Tea Party is ruining their opportunity to be PART of the solution, instead they are blocking any forward movement but only digging in and refusing to work with anyone. Boehner is not in an enviable position.

Or it could be Obama isn't willing to make meaningful concessions...we really haven't been able to see what cuts and taxes are on the table. We only know Cantor, Boehner, and Obama have all walked out of negotiations at one time or another.

archer wrote:

conifermtman wrote:

archer wrote:

conifermtman wrote: I call bullsh** on that comment. If it were not for the Tea Party it would be business as usual in Washington. .

Instead of business as usual, the tea party wants to give is a return to the two class system in this country. Sure they want spending cuts.....but not on anything that will effect their wealthy donors or big corporations....no, they want the poor and the middle class and the seniors to bear all the burden for getting our fiscal house in order. I call bulls**t on that idea.....EVERYONE needs to sacrifice in this country. The Tea Party is mixing poison into their tea and you conservatives are drinking it down.

Enjoy while you can, because if they do take the helm of this country there won't be a USA as we know it in 10 years. We will look like any other run of the mill 3rd world country with a ruling class and the poor. The pictures of starving citizens on TV will not be from Africa, they will be from Detroit, or Burmingham, or Denver. And no.....I don't think I am exaggerating.

Keep on piling it on higher and deeper. No one expects poor people to finance our way out of the debt crisis. That is a silly notion that libs like you believe in. It's silly because the definition of poor means they lack wealth in the first place.

cutting back on medicaid benefits doesn't effect the poor? who knew????? The poor aren't just those who have no work, we have working poor, living below the poverty line who cannot afford to lose any more ground in this country. I've heard tea party members call for removal of the minimum wage......you don't think that will effect the working poor?

However, that does not mean that this country can afford huge wealth transfers in the form of social programs. Clearly we can't when forty cents of every dollar needs to be borrowed. The rich in this country already make up for most of the tax receipts in this country. Even if you tax them at 50 or 90% of their income it would not make up for the shortfall in spending. What is wrong with people like you when you think its OK to expand the government beyond 20% of GDP and not pay for it? You could not run your own household this way, you would be bankrupt.

I could not get my own household out of debt if I was only willing to cut spending and not increase revenue. And no.....cutting taxes does not increase revenue no matter how many times the GOP tells you it does. They are WRONG!

Please show where I ever, ever said that raising tax rates on the rich would get us out of this mess.......it is just one of many tools we need to use to really address the economic problems of this country. But God forbid we should ever touch a conservative's sacred cow.....you all have spent so much time in bed with the wealthy and big corporations you have bed sores.

Who is paying for all those programs we can't afford. It certainly is not the poor. So how is this on the backs of the poor? The problem with getting something for nothing is that you don't care how much it costs.

Cutting taxes results in more money coming into the government except when the government does everything possible to stifle economic growth, which this President and the Democratic controlled congress did during Obama's first two years in power. Now the Tea Party is putting the brakes on the spending the President wants.

I'm betting that they cut a deal months ago and everyone is just milking this for theatrical value.

I think the real Tea Party folks (regular folks) are being used by those with influence and money to get the country that they want - a nice place for the really rich. THey are being used. I wish they would wake up and call BS on the Koch Brothers