majority of Americans want Obama's deficit reduction plan

26 Jul 2011 17:59 #21 by archer
Calling me names doesn't further your credibility any.

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26 Jul 2011 18:00 #22 by The Viking

archer wrote: Calling me names doesn't further your credibility any.



Sorry, I have read this post a few times, I don't think I see an answer to my questions in there. But you are right, I won't call you clueless anymore. But seriously? Do you pay attention to anything or just repeat what you are told?

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26 Jul 2011 18:04 #23 by PrintSmith

archer wrote: Obama is the President.....We know that bugs the hell out of you Viking...the president doesnt initiate plans in congress...he only signs or vetos them. This is all on the congress critters and they are playing russian roulette with our country. Kudos to Obama for trying to negotiate a compromise, but crafting legislation is NOT his job. The Dems have a plan that give Reps most everything they want, but they are too pigheaded to agree.

I agree with you archer, the Democrats in the Senate are playing Russian Roulette with the future of the nation trying to protect their party leader. With no clear indications of what he will sign, only statements as to what he won't, he has given Reid and the rest of the Democrats in the Senate an impossible task of protecting his future reelection prospects by shielding him from any fallout that might result from an actual plan, complete with specifics, being introduced and debated within the Senate.

It's time for the petulant occupant of the Oval Office to graciously accept that he won't get his way on this as a result of the thrashing his party took in the last election.

If I were Boehner right now I would give the president a choice between waivers from Obamacare for all 50 states, a $2.7 Trillion dollar savings, and Cut, Cap and Balance. Being president doesn't give you an unlimited amount of choices, that isn't one of the perks that comes with the job he was elected to do. Obama should be ashamed of himself for expecting Reid and the Democrats in the Senate to protect him instead of doing their job. If Reid were a leader instead of a lap dog, he would do his job and let Obama worry about his own approval ratings instead of running interference for Obama. Obama isn't even going to have anything to veto if the Senate doesn't get off the dime soon.

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26 Jul 2011 18:08 #24 by The Viking

PrintSmith wrote: If I were Boehner right now I would give the president a choice between waivers from Obamacare for all 50 states, a $2.7 Trillion dollar savings, and Cut, Cap and Balance. Being president doesn't give you an unlimited amount of choices, that isn't one of the perks that comes with the job he was elected to do. Obama should be ashamed of himself for expecting Reid and the Democrats in the Senate to protect him instead of doing their job. If Reid were a leader instead of a lap dog, he would do his job and let Obama worry about his own approval ratings instead of running interference for Obama. Obama isn't even going to have anything to veto if the Senate doesn't get off the dime soon.



Love that idea!!! And very well put!!

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26 Jul 2011 18:09 #25 by PrintSmith

archer wrote: Great...the Dens had pushed for 4 trillion over 10 years...
I'm sure 851billion is better.

Cut, Cap and Balance gives that and then some, so it is obviously not nearly as good as what the Democrats were pushing for. And how, precisely, do the Democrats plan on getting to the amount they've been pushing for archer? Are you the only one in the nation who has seen specifics on how they plan to accomplish this Herculean feat? And why have you been holding out on us with regards to the specifics after being informed of what they were? Who knows, with an actual written proposal that states how they plan on getting to $4 Trillion they might even get a few votes from the other side of the aisle. Guess we will have to wait for an actual proposal instead of a theoretical one before we find out though.

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26 Jul 2011 18:10 #26 by archer
Nice spin...but you are blaming the wrong party and the American people know it. 2012 may be the Republicans wake up call....this country is better than what Republicans are trying to turn her into.

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26 Jul 2011 18:12 #27 by LadyJazzer
I hope, and expect, that if they send something to him with absolutely no revenue increases, or loopholes closed, he vetoes it. Then the "righteous" can figure out what to do next when their "Fuggedaboutit" attitude about the ceiling comes crashing down around their ankles....And EVERYBODY, including the empty suits over at FauxNews knows that the public will blame the GOP.

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26 Jul 2011 18:16 #28 by archer

LadyJazzer wrote: I hope, and expect, that if they send something to him with absolutely no revenue increases, or loopholes closed, he vetoes it. Then the "righteous" can figure out what to do next when their "Fuggedaboutit" attitude about the ceiling comes crashing down around their ankles....And EVERYBODY, including the empty suits over at FauxNews knows that the public will blame the GOP.

According to the polls, they already are. The Republican kool aid is starting to ferment.

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26 Jul 2011 18:25 #29 by PrintSmith
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride......

One of us is going to be greatly disappointed with the populace if Obama chooses to ruin the current credit rating of the nation LJ, and I don't think it is going to be me. I wouldn't be betting on a repeat of the outcome during the Clinton years just yet if'n I were you. There are a lot more people tuned in with a lot more accurate information this time around and a lot more people who remain flabbergasted that Obama thinks the federal government should be entitled to a full quarter of the national production from here on out.

Government overreach and government overspending are what got us into this pickle to begin with, not a lack of tax revenue from the hardworking citizens of the states that belong to the union. They've done their part, including the millionaires and billionaires. They've given the federal government a reliable and consistent portion of the fruits of their labor to spend, but from all appearances the federal government is even more high maintenance than a trophy spouse is and has pretty much become too expensive to keep.

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26 Jul 2011 18:32 #30 by LadyJazzer
No, actually, the millionaires and billionaires are generally paying a lower effective tax rate than their secretaries. But if you keep repeating it often enough you might actually believe it someday...

Insert standard phrase-of-the-day re: "FDR" and the "coup" here: ______________________________________

"wannabe national government" here: _________________________

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