majority of Americans want Obama's deficit reduction plan

BearMtnHIB wrote: The reductions should fall square on the people who are consuming this wasteful spending, and that's not gonna be the top 2% of productive earners.

Are only the top 2% productive? What does Paris Hilton produce?

BearMtnHIB wrote: Government employee's should get drastic cuts, followed by the welfare state and entitlement state. Our only hope of working back this massive spending and debt will be to convert government workers to private sector workers, and turn welfare mommies into working mommies, thereby increasing the number of taxpayers and at the same time decreasing the number of people sucking on the government teat.

How much will that save? How do you propose getting welfare mommies to become working mommies? Will you watch their kids while they work? How many welfare mommies are there?

BearMtnHIB wrote: Taxing the most productive earners would have drastic negative effects on the economy, and as has been pointed out, those earners already pay a disproportionate amount of their earnings in taxes. Any new taxes will destroy job opportunities.

Who are the "most productive earners?"

BearMtnHIB wrote: The answer to the debt equation is not to increase revenue, we do not have a revenue problem, we have a government run amok problem- the problem is spending!

I think we have a too much spending and too little revenue problem.

The majority of American's, more than this stupid thread poll, 66% agree witht he Cut, Cap, and Balance plan and it gives Obama his $2.4 trillion MORE (Fricken idiot), that goes till AFTER his precious election! SO why is he saying no?

The Viking wrote: The majority of American's, more than this stupid thread poll, 66% agree witht he Cut, Cap, and Balance plan and it gives Obama his $2.4 trillion MORE (Fricken idiot), that goes till AFTER his precious election! SO why is he saying no?

Apparently Americans don't really know what they want.....in the same poll that said 2/3 of Americans support CCB

Sixty-four percent of respondents said they would favor a deficit-reduction plan that includes both spending cuts and tax increases to one consisting only of the latter.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/21/cnn ... ance-plan/

Kate wrote:

BearMtnHIB wrote: The reductions should fall square on the people who are consuming this wasteful spending, and that's not gonna be the top 2% of productive earners.

Are only the top 2% productive? What does Paris Hilton produce?

BearMtnHIB wrote: Government employee's should get drastic cuts, followed by the welfare state and entitlement state. Our only hope of working back this massive spending and debt will be to convert government workers to private sector workers, and turn welfare mommies into working mommies, thereby increasing the number of taxpayers and at the same time decreasing the number of people sucking on the government teat.

How much will that save? How do you propose getting welfare mommies to become working mommies? Will you watch their kids while they work? How many welfare mommies are there?

BearMtnHIB wrote: Taxing the most productive earners would have drastic negative effects on the economy, and as has been pointed out, those earners already pay a disproportionate amount of their earnings in taxes. Any new taxes will destroy job opportunities.

Who are the "most productive earners?"

BearMtnHIB wrote: The answer to the debt equation is not to increase revenue, we do not have a revenue problem, we have a government run amok problem- the problem is spending!

I think we have a too much spending and too little revenue problem.

What does Paris Hilton produce?

Money.

How do you propose getting welfare mommies to become working mommies?

Take away their free government cheese.

Will you watch their kids while they work?

No.

How many welfare mommies are there?

More than 2 million.

Who are the "most productive earners?"

They are the ones who make the most money! Duh- but I'm not suprised to get this question from a big government liberal- you along with the rest of the lefites are clueless about this question.

Are only the top 2% productive?

No, but the top 2% producers make more- and pay more taxes disproportionately than those who earn less- you could say that they pay many times more their share than lower wage workers do. In fact, the Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 70 Percent of Federal Income Taxes collected in 2008! Whoa!

http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/top10-percent-income-earners

I think we have a too much spending and too little revenue problem

I know. this is how the left thinks. If you make money that the government doesn't take from you yet- why not send it in to uncle sam? Just take everything you make and send it in OK?

We are at the limit, the government has taxed, regulated and otherwise driven the cost of business and the cost of living right up to the edge of what our economic system can tolerate, no room for any trouble, any economic problem at this point drives the markets down and the costs up.

Our economy can not handle more taxes- any attempt to suck more money from the producers in this economy will result in less economic activity, less investment, fewer jobs, fewer products and services being produced & consumed. I guess I'll have to make it my life's work to get the left to understand this simple concept that the entire rest of the the economic world (except socialists) seem to alreadty know and understand.

Government is a destroyer of revenue- not a creator. The private sector creates, and the government consumes and destroy's America's wealth. Just ask anyone who understands economics and is not politically motivated to say otherwise!

I think the Republicans are getting exactly what they want.....hold off on a debt ceiling vote for as long as they can, drive the stock market down, then buy stocks just before they vote for whatever plan happens to be available at the time, meanwhile taking credit for averting a disaster.

Personally I think that is the plan for the rich regressives like George Soros. Keep Obama paralyzed with screams from the looney left while plundering the economic market for themselves. Soros at least has a history of doing such things, ruining entire markets to benefit himself that is. Wall Street simply pays protection money to both parties if truth be told. Though I will admit that their increase in campaign contributions this time over last does lend itself to being viewed more as reciprocity than protection.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... PJ20110722

Something the Dog Said wrote: 56% of Americans want the Obama deficit reduction plan including a combination of raising taxes and cutting spending. Only 19% want the Republican plan of simply cutting spending. It is time for the Republicans to listen to the American people, rather than continuing to be tools for the corporations and ultra-wealthy.


"The poll found that 56 percent of Americans want to see a combination of government spending cuts and tax increases included in a deal to bring down the U.S. budget deficit and permit a vote to raise the country's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling.

This is the approach favored by Obama and his fellow Democrats to begin to put America's fiscal house in order."

In the poll, 19 percent said the best approach is only to cut existing programs, and 12 percent said only raising taxes would be the favored solution

The Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 31 percent of respondents held Republican lawmakers responsible for the debt impasse, 21 percent blamed Obama and 9 percent blamed Democratic lawmakers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... Q220110726

don't have much faith in polls. This one says that 55% oppose a tax hike deal. Polls are not all that trustworthy. You and I both do not know who they are calling, what area of the country, etc. They are all flawed in my opinion.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... iling_deal

They always are--until they say what YOU like for them to say--and then they are GOLDEN....

If you really don't think the super rich control the world economy,,, you live under a rock.