Remember the whole freedom is not free thing?

Just thinking about all the idiots who ranted about freedom not being free so that we can have a decade of fun attacking our rights and other countries. Killing at random levels..saw a "FINF" sticker this morning that got me going.

I feel like we should not have spent as much as we did, on just about anything, wars, commissions, child care, schools, etc. and that those that wanted to buy these things knew they were spending other people's money. Some of us even knew that all this spending, for America's sake, was one of the biggest risks America has taken, bigger than 9-11 or perhaps even Fighting Hitler or Japan. Many of us now realize that if we do this wrong, if we keep spending, this land may not continue to be the US. Most of us were brought up to not even imagine such things...and now we can not only imagine America going down, we can now imagine our children starving, becoming slaves or getting raped in wars like we used to imagine only happened elsewhere...not any more. We wanted a BS lifestyle and to not keep our govt. in check and we got what we collectively deserved.

But I assume that all you idiots who talked about freedom not being free (we might have to go back to pinecam and do a search) are for raising the debt ceiling right? This is your debt as much as any welfare recipient, or SS recipient or parent of a school age child.

So I just wanted all of you war mongers that wanted war at the price of our economy to go screw yourselves, you already screwed us big time for your football team mentality used globally....but I am sure after we put a temporary band aide in this thing, you will go back to war mongering and eliminating rights in order to have your pseudo suburban lifestyle propped up at others' expense. It took me about 10 seconds of hearing Bush speak to know he is not a leader, but knew he would get along with the monkeys on the football team. We got just about the same country we would have if we had put some random midwest football team in charge (with their meathead dad's a council).

Perhaps we could start with a simple $100,000 tax for anyone who actually muttered the silly words, "freedom is not free." so that they start to understand that this is more than catchy phrases, this is your country. Those who muttered those words and just expected someone else to pay, are the problem, more than Bin Laden and Sadam. Those who muttered those words have done more harm and killed more people in the end (which has not come yet). Perhaps the phrase, "Oppression is Expensive" would be better suited.

Remember peeling paint on your house is a $50/day fine in rural Park County. "Freedom is not free, it actually can bankrupt you."

I think in the end we "cash in" a concept or a phrase in place of thought. We used a very patriotic concept of "freedom is not free" at the wrong time, to make people stop thinking about what we were doing. This is around the same time when people starting having more trouble debating in public. This phrase should have been saved for when food or gas started to get rationed, as this may come due to some other event, market or conflict. But now it is "cashed in".

I know we are all generally on the same side, except when we start using too many catch phrases or party names. Our Debt goals need to stay the same as they should have always been, decent government support, moderate taxation and lower/eliminate the debt. When you tax to create a fund, like SS, you leave that fund alone or borrow from it lightly with clear, short term plans for repayment. This is in fact why we entrust the government with this stuff, not to have them behave like a trust fund kid, we can do that on our own (and enjoy it). But we need to not pretend like this is a new problem, or "they" did it to us. It is good to debate this debt stuff and we should, because we are the deciders. I think the first thing we need to do is make a list of everything the gov does and prioritize it, spend as much time on this as debit card fees. It will make the cutting clear, and just about all other decisions. Perhaps not letting the media feed us our next candidates would help too.

I always thought of "freedom is not free" as a respectful nod to those in the armed forces that sign on to put their lives on the line to protect us, most recently from an organized terrorist organization.

I never thought of it in trivial monetary terms.

Nobody that matters wrote: I always thought of "freedom is not free" as a respectful nod to those in the armed forces that sign on to put their lives on the line to protect us, most recently from an organized terrorist organization.

I never thought of it in trivial monetary terms.

That is what it wast meant for. Libs are trying to tarnish it and take that away from the brave men and women defending our freedom and turn it into a campaign for higher taxes. It is so sad the disrespect shown......

The Viking wrote:

Nobody that matters wrote: I always thought of "freedom is not free" as a respectful nod to those in the armed forces that sign on to put their lives on the line to protect us, most recently from an organized terrorist organization.

I never thought of it in trivial monetary terms.

That is what it wast meant for. Libs are trying to tarnish it and take that away from the brave men and women defending our freedom and turn it into a campaign for higher taxes. It is so sad the disrespect shown......

Is it all liberals that are tarnishing or is it just a few? Can you provide a examples of the liberals that are trying to tarnish the brave men and women that defended our freedom? Or is this just another opportunity to bash liberals in general?

Kate wrote:

The Viking wrote:

Nobody that matters wrote: I always thought of "freedom is not free" as a respectful nod to those in the armed forces that sign on to put their lives on the line to protect us, most recently from an organized terrorist organization.

I never thought of it in trivial monetary terms.

That is what it wast meant for. Libs are trying to tarnish it and take that away from the brave men and women defending our freedom and turn it into a campaign for higher taxes. It is so sad the disrespect shown......

Is it all liberals that are tarnishing or is it just a few? Can you provide a examples of the liberals that are trying to tarnish the brave men and women that defended our freedom? Or is this just another opportunity to bash liberals in general?

Point taken. OK, a few liberals. Not sure of the total but I don't know any Republican's who would disrespect our military like that by taking a slogan affiliated with their bravery and turning it into a raising taxes issue.

Some people.