The Worlds most Decorated Historian says

Obama is a moderate consevative, I hate that but maybe he has to be in this political envioroment. The House and Senate have been bought by corporate money and they really run the show-

So lets all step back now and get some historical perspective on this president. A great man up against impossible odds

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Bump city

Decorated Historian? Is that like hang a couple glass balls from his ears and some silver spray paint for his hair and shazam, its a Christmas tree?
ps, your Tower of Power reference should be enlarged.

Most decorated historian? Does he look like a Christmas tree?

Maybe Obama has to be a moderate conservative because that is what America is? A nation of moderates who are conservative in their daily lives. Obama if he wants to be true to his political leanings needs to go back to his Chicago congressional district.

Ignoring history is how you guys became so ignorant and clueless to whats going on around you.

It's called History People: Look into it

Would one of the Left help VL to argue just one side of the discussion. Most liberals support Keynesian theory, govt intervention, not free market (capitalist) economics.

“Never look back unless you are planning to go that way”
Henry David Thoreau

Interesting.

Yes, I would say that most of the positions and actions Obama has taken would be typical of a moderately conservative viewpoint.

I'd also agree that the moderately conservative viewpoint describes the majority of people in America.

The trouble seems to come about because there is a sizable minority of people whose politics are way to the far right (over-represented on this forum however), who imagine that THEIR views are the default, the typical, the "normal" viewpoint of most of America. When in fact their views are, well, way to the far right. They imagine theirs are the "normal" ones because they mostly associate with people with the same views, in their homes and in their churches, in their sorted-by-income-and-political-party neighborhoods.

In other words, they don't have a clue what the rest of America looks like, or what a "moderate" view looks like. Anything even slightly less far right than their views seem to be extremely far to the left.

So they don't understand that their views aren't the majority views, aren't the "default American" views, and what's more, they look at someone like Obama who is as near to a centrist as any President we've recently seen, and see not a moderate but a "dangerous" far-left radical.

We're about to crash. Radical/extreme viewpoint, hit the brakes and turn the steering wheel. Moderate viewpoint, I'll take my foot off the accelerator pedal and see what happens.

AspenValley wrote: Interesting.

Yes, I would say that most of the positions and actions Obama has taken would be typical of a moderately conservative viewpoint.

I'd also agree that the moderately conservative viewpoint describes the majority of people in America.

The trouble seems to come about because there is a sizable minority of people whose politics are way to the far right (over-represented on this forum however), who imagine that THEIR views are the default, the typical, the "normal" viewpoint of most of America. When in fact their views are, well, way to the far right. They imagine theirs are the "normal" ones because they mostly associate with people with the same views, in their homes and in their churches, in their sorted-by-income-and-political-party neighborhoods.

In other words, they don't have a clue what the rest of America looks like, or what a "moderate" view looks like. Anything even slightly less far right than their views seem to be extremely far to the left.

So they don't understand that their views aren't the majority views, aren't the "default American" views, and what's more, they look at someone like Obama who is as near to a centrist as any President we've recently seen, and see not a moderate but a "dangerous" far-left radical.

Thank you Aspen..Well written