Now Reid and the Dems are filibustering their own bill!

rofllol Are you kidding? There is only one bill passed and that is by the House and the Republicans. And Reid refuses to vote on it and tables it instead. Then he swears that he has a bill but now he decideds to filibuster his own bill to prove a point. So the Republicans have given Ryan's bill which cut $4.4 trillion and Obama and the Dems said NO before there was even a vote. They passed the Cut, Cap and Trade bill which Pelosi and Reid both said would work until Obama said he would veto it, so Reid tabled it without a vote saying NO. Now they fight to get another bill passed in the House and Reid tables it and refuses to let the Senate vote on it or amend it and says NO. Then when asked there the Senate bill is, Reid says he has one but plays games and filibusters his own bill so it won't come to a vote till 48 hours before their deadline. WHO is the party of NO? Who is the party playing games with no ideas? The Dems by far!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... debt-bill/

Oh and by the way, S&P has said they would probably downgrade us even if a deal is reached so I know the Dems will try and blame this on the R's when it happens but it will happen anyway. Deal or no deal. It is happening because of our out of control spending since 2007 of several trillion dollars. What happened in 2007? Oh that's right, the Dems took over total control of all spending bills.

Yeah, that would be pretty funny--if it were true... Oh, wait...This is a thread from Viking... So we know it isn't....

So, basically, from The Last Word with Lawrence O' Donnell and his guest Senator Kent Conrad, we learn that McConnell refused to negotiate with Majority Leader Reid and said he will only negotiate with the President. More importantly, Minority Leader McConnell indicated he and his Republican cohorts in the Senate would filibuster the Reid bill. However, that is the only bill that actually can pass the Congress in time to prevent a default and the automatic reduction in our credit rating from AAA to AA which will cause, according to Bank of America and Credit Suisse, a 5 % contraction in our GDP.

The Republicans, therefore, by their filibuster, have forced the US to default with the attendant consequences. The Tea Party people must be so proud !!!!

I see, so Democrats are actually the party of YES? I keep waiting for the yes part.

LadyJazzer wrote: Yeah, that would be pretty funny--if it were true... Oh, wait...This is a thread from Viking... So we know it isn't....

So, basically, from The Last Word with Lawrence O' Donnell and his guest Senator Kent Conrad, we learn that McConnell refused to negotiate with Majority Leader Reid and said he will only negotiate with the President. More importantly, Minority Leader McConnell indicated he and his Republican cohorts in the Senate would filibuster the Reid bill. However, that is the only bill that actually can pass the Congress in time to prevent a default and the automatic reduction in our credit rating from AAA to AA which will cause, according to Bank of America and Credit Suisse, a 5 % contraction in our GDP.

The Republicans, therefore, by their filibuster, have forced the US to default with the attendant consequences. The Tea Party people must be so proud !!!!

You just have to love regressive logic. If the Dems hadn't spent the entire amount of the last debt limit hike, there would be no need to pass a new one at this point in time. If they had passed a large enough debt limit to carry their executive through the 2012 election when they controlled Congress then there would be no limit to debate or compromise at this point. If the Dems would simply pass either of the bills that the House has sent them, then there would be no need to worry about default any longer, unless, of course, the Dem in the Oval Office vetoed the debt limit increase after it was sent to him by Congress.

No matter how you slice it, the reason the nation has to worry about default at all is that the Democrats failed in every instance to do what was necessary to avoid it up until this point. They could have spent less than what they raised the limit to last time, they could have passed a larger limit the last time they voted on it when they controlled both houses of Congress or they could simply have accepted that "the election is over John", along with the consequences of getting thoroughly thumped in the mid-term elections. Given their lack of restraint, their lack of foresight and their unwillingness to accept responsibility for losing sole control of the process, here is where we find ourselves today.

WOW, you obviously do not get it PS. This thread was started by Viking there for there is nothing to see here. Move along. :can't hear

PrintSmith wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Yeah, that would be pretty funny--if it were true... Oh, wait...This is a thread from Viking... So we know it isn't....

So, basically, from The Last Word with Lawrence O' Donnell and his guest Senator Kent Conrad, we learn that McConnell refused to negotiate with Majority Leader Reid and said he will only negotiate with the President. More importantly, Minority Leader McConnell indicated he and his Republican cohorts in the Senate would filibuster the Reid bill. However, that is the only bill that actually can pass the Congress in time to prevent a default and the automatic reduction in our credit rating from AAA to AA which will cause, according to Bank of America and Credit Suisse, a 5 % contraction in our GDP.

The Republicans, therefore, by their filibuster, have forced the US to default with the attendant consequences. The Tea Party people must be so proud !!!!

You just have to love regressive logic. If the Dems hadn't spent the entire amount of the last debt limit hike, there would be no need to pass a new one at this point in time. If they had passed a large enough debt limit to carry their executive through the 2012 election when they controlled Congress then there would be no limit to debate or compromise at this point. If the Dems would simply pass either of the bills that the House has sent them, then there would be no need to worry about default any longer, unless, of course, the Dem in the Oval Office vetoed the debt limit increase after it was sent to him by Congress.

No matter how you slice it, the reason the nation has to worry about default at all is that the Democrats failed in every instance to do what was necessary to avoid it up until this point. They could have spent less than what they raised the limit to last time, they could have passed a larger limit the last time they voted on it when they controlled both houses of Congress or they could simply have accepted that "the election is over John", along with the consequences of getting thoroughly thumped in the mid-term elections. Given their lack of restraint, their lack of foresight and their unwillingness to accept responsibility for losing sole control of the process, here is where we find ourselves today.