Joe wrote: Why thanks VL, I give you alot of crap too and its all in good fun.
Couldn't you have just stopped right there?
Joe-I know you don't have much of an attention span but I want you to just take a quick look at these 15 Mind Blowing Graphs. The American Consumer is the Golden Goose of the Economy- You are constantly argueing to starve it to death. You're not smart
Well we just have to disagree. I read your charts, its the same ol class warfare.
You believe in fixing income inequality with Taxation.
I believe it takes education and a financially smarter middle class. My income has grown substantially since my first min wage job at 2.00/hour in the 70s. My net worth is due to my house, IRAs and savings and investments, not consumption and credit card debt and buying a house bigger than I need.
Just don't agree on high marginal rates. I do favor tax reform, simple rates and simplification of deductions.
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
Joe wrote: Well we just have to disagree. I read your charts, its the same ol class warfare.
You believe in fixing income inequality with Taxation.
I believe it takes education and a financially smarter middle class.
You couldn't have possibly studied my charts in 21 minutes!?
Yeah and none of this would have happened if we had a "financially smarter middle class"? Sounds like something Miss America would say..World peace and all that
Something the Dog Said wrote: The old voting scheme was designed to give an unfair disadvantage to workers. That rule rigged any union election against the workers by counting non-votes as no votes. The new rule which is used in every other industry would simply require the votes counted to be the official tally which I believe is the American way, and the very foundation of our country. Just because it is old does not make it right.
Typical Dog droppings. The rules were set in place during the FDR era and represented a means of making sure that the majority of the workers, not a majority of the union organizers, wanted to be represented by the union. Those that wanted a union would show up and vote to be represented by them, those that didn't could express their preference by simply not showing up. Votes cast in favor of unionization represent the members of the workforce that the union has convinced. If they haven't convinced the majority, then the union hasn't convinced the workers that they should represent them. Simple as that.
Something the Dog Said wrote: The old voting scheme was designed to give an unfair disadvantage to workers. That rule rigged any union election against the workers by counting non-votes as no votes. The new rule which is used in every other industry would simply require the votes counted to be the official tally which I believe is the American way, and the very foundation of our country. Just because it is old does not make it right.
Typical Dog droppings. The rules were set in place during the FDR era and represented a means of making sure that the majority of the workers, not a majority of the union organizers, wanted to be represented by the union. Those that wanted a union would show up and vote to be represented by them, those that didn't could express their preference by simply not showing up. Votes cast in favor of unionization represent the members of the workforce that the union has convinced. If they haven't convinced the majority, then the union hasn't convinced the workers that they should represent them. Simple as that.
Why should voting for unionization be any different than our national and state elections for who will represent us in government? people who don't vote, don't care, or whatever, should not have their vote counted either way.......it would make as much sense to do it the opposite.....all who really don't want a union must show up and vote, otherwise their vote is counted as a yes.
This is NOT how we do things in this country.....though I fear that the conservatives are going to change the way we do a lot of things and not for the better.
archer wrote: Why should voting for unionization be any different than our national and state elections for who will represent us in government? people who don't vote, don't care, or whatever, should not have their vote counted either way.......it would make as much sense to do it the opposite.....all who really don't want a union must show up and vote, otherwise their vote is counted as a yes.
This is NOT how we do things in this country.....though I fear that the conservatives are going to change the way we do a lot of things and not for the better.
Why should a proposed amendment to the Constitution require a 2/3 vote in both houses of Congress or be sought by 2/3 of the states and then approved by 3/4 of the states after being written? The answer is the same in both instances archer. A change from the current state of things is what is being sought and before the change is made a majority of the people affected by that change should be required. The laws require that we have a Congress and an executive, they don't require that the workers be represented by a union. You can't compare apples and oranges archer, the comparison never holds when subjected to reasoned thinking.
So Republicans capitulated, after losing $400 million in tax revenue due to their bogus shenigans. Even the source of this mess admits he screwed up.
Congressman John Mica, the Florida Republican blamed for single-handedly shutting down the Federal Aviation Administration, sounded like a beaten man when he called me Thursday evening.
The usually biting chairman of the House transportation committee spoke with remorse about the standoff, which put 74,000 people on furlough or out of work, delayed airport-safety projects and cost hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.
“I’ve had a brutal week, getting beat up by everybody,” Mica told me, minutes after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced a deal that would end the shutdown and avoid the cuts to regional air service that Mica wanted.
“I didn’t know it would cause this much consternation,” Mica said. “Now I’ve just got to get the broom and the shovel and clean up the mess.” Switching metaphors, he said he wanted “to unclog the toilet, but it backed up. So I don’t know what to do, what to say.”
One thing he’s going to do is make amends. He said he would introduce legislation Friday to pay FAA workers for their furlough days. “We just want to cheer all those workers who have been left out on a limb by this,” he explained.
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