Obama's Supporters Turn on Him

For the record, even when he is right I still think Morris is a POS.

By Dick Morris

The pathetic performance of President Obama in the debt debate is showing the left how incompetent and weak the leader they selected is. Many are wishing they had Hillary Clinton in the White House instead! Once Obama has to move beyond a set teleprompter speech, he is lost. During the BP disaster, he showed what a poor administrator he is and now he has belied any pretensions to legislative skill. He is the un-Lyndon Johnson.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 10811.html

[sarcasm font] Hard to believe that those who supported Barry in 2008 are finally coming to their senses, Barry promised to save the whole world from itself back on the campaign trail. Which evil Tea Party/Republicans are to blame?![/sarcasm font]

In the meanwhile the alternative lifestyle community is up in arms because Barry didn't come through for them (and might be one of them). Club Gitmo is still open for business with all of the effective interrogation techniques in place and it shows no signs of closing. Now we have a few million dollars of new war fighting expenses due to his commitment to NATO enforcing a no fly zone in Libya when Barry told us he was going to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan right away. Should anyone believe anything Barry and his crew have to say about anything anymore?

Sorry guys, but I beg to differ with you.

From Rush Limbaugh:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/ ... guest.html

CALLER: Rush, thank you. If you think this man is going to be ousted in 2012, I'm afraid you're highly mistaken. The allegiance to this man no matter what he does, no matter how incapable he is, Rush, is unwavering. I'm just going by my experience here, where I live and circles that I run in. And, you know, if you're running a candidate, a Milquetoast candidate -- the likely candidate which I think will be Romney -- who will stand there and not speak in a forthright fashion. He won't challenge him on all his shortcomings. Rush, we don't stand a chance. It's stuff to get an incumbent out of there in the first place. Let's be realistic about this, Rush. You had 50% of this country on the dole. They're takers. Those are the Obama hardcore fans. They are in lockstep with him no matter what he does, Rush. I'm afraid to say those words. I really regret saying those words. I'm afraid it's the truth.

RUSH: Well, one caveat here, Ralph. I don't blame you for feeling the way you feel. You live in New York.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: It is not possible for you to encounter people who don't think that way. Eighty percent of New York does think and does vote the exact way that you have described Obama. I just got in my e-mail a little note here from Dick Morris. It's not to me. It's one of these blast e-mails. He pretty much pronounces Obama DOA in 2012, that the left has abandoned him. The left is embarrassed. The left is fed up with Obama's pathetic incompetence when he doesn't have a teleprompter, that this budget performance of his was an absolute embarrassment, that they're fit to be tied. He hasn't done anything that he said he was going to do. It's a fait accompli, according to Dick Morris and his polling data, that Obama's finished. He's a total washout.

Proving my point that President could drop a deuce on his desk in the Oval Office....and the liberal left would still love him to death. It's some damned good koolaid. rofllol

What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

archer wrote: What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

For once I agree with Archer, the hardcore left won't desert Obama. What has to happen for the GOP to win, is for enough independents to vote Repub and enough Reagan Democrats staying home November 2012.

I had a lot of issues with "W", but I voted against Kerry and Gore.

archer wrote: What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

Ironically, you just described how much of the right feels about President Obama and the prospect of four more years under his Presidency

lionshead2010 wrote:

archer wrote: What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

Ironically, you just described how much of the right feels about President Obama and the prospect of four more years under his Presidency

It's what you get when the two parties wage political war.....people move farther and farther away from each other......I wouldn't be so afraid of what the Republicans would do if they hadn't moved so far right I can't even see them anymore.......it's not their economic platform so much (though what I am seeing now makes me think they are about to go off the deep end over that too) but their bringing social policies into the mix. They just want to hack away at the fabric of this nation. I don't disagree that there need to be changes in entitlements and education and other programs, but to just take an ax to them, without careful planning and judicious care about how, when, and what is cut, could put this country into a decline we may never get out of.....at least not in my lifetime.

archer wrote:

lionshead2010 wrote:

archer wrote: What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

Ironically, you just described how much of the right feels about President Obama and the prospect of four more years under his Presidency

It's what you get when the two parties wage political war.....people move farther and farther away from each other......I wouldn't be so afraid of what the Republicans would do if they hadn't moved so far right I can't even see them anymore.......it's not their economic platform so much (though what I am seeing now makes me think they are about to go off the deep end over that too) but their bringing social policies into the mix. They just want to hack away at the fabric of this nation. I don't disagree that there need to be changes in entitlements and education and other programs, but to just take an ax to them, without careful planning and judicious care about how, when, and what is cut, could put this country into a decline we may never get out of.....at least not in my lifetime.

Again, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy, you have taken the words right out of my mouth (with a few small changes). Though I think the Keynesian economic theories will be the end of us. I feel the left is disassembling the social fabric of our great nation. I feel their social policies are too Utopian.

Much of the right sees this debt as the beginning of the end and it feels like the left refuses to even really acknowledge the gravity of it.

I'll save my breath. I'm not going to change the mind of anyone on the left. The beauty (or hell) of it is that one side or the other is really correct. If the left is right then I'll be happy to admit the error of my judgment...it's a win-win. However, if the left is wrong then the damage may be irreversible. I'm not getting the vapors, but I feel the left is blind to the real problems. They lead with and make decisions with their heart's instead of their head's. In hard times the heart is still important...but you have to use your head too.

lionshead2010 wrote:

archer wrote:

lionshead2010 wrote:

archer wrote: What you conservatives don't understand is.....this isn't about allegiance to Obama, this is about there being no other choice yet to vote for. Obama was not my first choice......and I am not particularly happy with the job he has done, but when I look at what the Republican/tea party has to offer.....I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for one of tham. They downright scare the sh*t outa me. I can't imaging the trouble this country would be in if any one of them was president. My hope is that little gets done till the end of Obama's 2nd term, and then we get a REAL progressive/liberal president in office and he/she cleans the moneychangers( AKA Tea Party) outa government.

Ironically, you just described how much of the right feels about President Obama and the prospect of four more years under his Presidency

It's what you get when the two parties wage political war.....people move farther and farther away from each other......I wouldn't be so afraid of what the Republicans would do if they hadn't moved so far right I can't even see them anymore.......it's not their economic platform so much (though what I am seeing now makes me think they are about to go off the deep end over that too) but their bringing social policies into the mix. They just want to hack away at the fabric of this nation. I don't disagree that there need to be changes in entitlements and education and other programs, but to just take an ax to them, without careful planning and judicious care about how, when, and what is cut, could put this country into a decline we may never get out of.....at least not in my lifetime.

Again, at the risk of sounding like a wise guy, you have taken the words right out of my mouth (with a few small changes). Though I think the Keynesian economic theories will be the end of us. I feel the left is disassembling the social fabric of our great nation. I feel their social policies are too Utopian.

Much of the right sees this debt as the beginning of the end and it feels like the left refuses to even really acknowledge the gravity of it.

I'll save my breath. I'm not going to change the mind of anyone on the left. The beauty (or hell) of it is that one side or the other is really correct. If the left is right then I'll be happy to admit the error of my judgment...it's a win-win. However, if the left is wrong then the damage may be irreversible. I'm not getting the vapors, but I feel the left is blind to the real problems. They lead with and make decisions with their heart's instead of their head's. In hard times the heart is still important...but you have to use your head too.

I think you are seeing what you expect to see from the left.....I will be the first to admit that the old days of spending are gone......I have always been a fiscal conservative....believe in a balanced budget and saving for the ever looming rainy day. That is where I and the more recent congresses parted ways.....though during Clinton's term, between the two branches of Gov't, we managed to put quite a nest egg away.

I see the left changing now....and yes, the Tea Party has brought about some of that change, along with a totally collapsed economy and a whole lot of economic pain. What I see the beginnings of is a desire to actually take a good hard look at where the money goes and how to stem the bleeding. The left may be coming to this kicking and screaming, but I don't care how they got there, just that they get serious about balancing a budget and reducing the deficit.

The reason I will stick with the Democrats is I think they will take more care with the entitlement programs...SS, medicare, medicaid and look for ways to cut costs and eliminate waste without gutting the whole idea of safety nets for our most vulnerable citizens. I also know they are more willing to use ALL the tools at the governments disposal to bring down the deficit, and that includes finding new revenue along with spending cuts. I'm an accountant....I like to see a balanced ledger.....and I believe revenue and cutting expenses is the quickest way to get this country back on track.

I know the right disagrees with any increase in revenue......I understand their reluctance, but difficult times call for difficult decisions to be made. We can talk all you want about how low taxes are good for the economy....and maybe you are right when we have a normal robust economy......but we don't. Interesting you would say that you don't think the left understands the gravity of the situation with the deficit.....I feel that way about the right. IF they understood just how important it is to get that debt paid down and under control they would be looking at every tax loophole, every unneeded subsidy, any means they could find to increase revenue to get that debt paid off. But they just don't seem to care......we can nickle and dime this debt all we want....but that isn't going to make it go away any time soon.

So yes, I feel the right is paying lip service to the economic problems we face to energize their base, but are not at all serious about actually making the hard choices that will begin to get us out of this mess.

lol Chicken Littles: The Republicans are moving dangerously to the right cutting social programs down to nothing. (Actually social spending has increased under Boehner.)
More Chicken Littles: Obama is the most liberal President ever! He will tax the producers. (Actually the president has moved taxes lower than Bush by decreasing Social Security withholding.)

There is big talk on both sides, but little actually gets changed. Boehner and his TEA Party haven't banned abortion or gay marriage. Obama is still letting the rich keep their income. Looks like compromise does happen.