CIA and Facebook.

13 Aug 2011 13:00 #11 by archer
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If you are going to use facebook, and I do to keep up with my kids and grandkids activities, then you have to be proactive with your acct. There are plenty of security settings to keep anyone except your friends from seeing what you write.......but the default settings are pretty lenient. You have to actually go into the settings and make everything private.

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13 Aug 2011 15:55 #12 by Wayne Harrison
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Collecting your FB info and likes is what helps FB function and connect to friends with similar interests.

There are much better and easier online ways for law enforcement to find out about you than surfing Facebook. Your life is in public databases than can be easily searched.

Some people are just too paranoid.

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13 Aug 2011 16:01 #13 by Martin Ent Inc
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Facebook. Leave little if no info, those that know you know those that don't arent in the need to know.

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14 Aug 2011 00:35 #14 by Residenttroll returns

CinnamonGirl wrote:

residenttroll wrote:

CinnamonGirl wrote: We don't collect any information.


Yes you do. You might think you don't but you do.


No we don't. Email and IP is all we have. You can easily come on here and be very anonymous. I suppose you could use the argument that you can add your email, web address, birthday etc. But that is so voluntary and few even know it is available.

It is not encouraged. I think that is where FB has the problem. And the friends seeing other friends info is where their privacy problems start. Their chains of personal info is set up to break privacy and spread.


Collecting IP address and email address is significant information...

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14 Aug 2011 10:25 #15 by Wayne Harrison
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Only if you're a troll intent on causing trouble. Trolls need anonymity to operate effectively.

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14 Aug 2011 10:33 #16 by CinnamonGirl
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Here is my point about FB. You have a false sense of security because you talking to and giving info to your friends but FB has it too it is on their site. It feels safe. I am not saying that FB is the evil empire but they don't take security very seriously or have not up until now.

I am not trying to bash FB but am trying to let people know what the risks are. Remember that email and google searches are used in court cases. email is a pretty reliable record you cannot change the text. You cannot on FB either. However you can delete, I just don't know how long that stays on their database. Some people do not know how to set their profiles on private and I do believe their default is still set at public. So those who do not know the internet don't know what they are doing.

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16 Aug 2011 09:57 #17 by CinnamonGirl
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Rare old Facebook , Mark Zuckerburg interview.

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18 Aug 2011 21:13 #18 by The Boss
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Why would you worry about FB, I would worry a little more about this upcoming gash in your constitution via this access to your ISP. I think I am reading that they are making all internet activity, phone calls and credit card usage open to police for one year upon simple request. Warrants slow us down so much anyway. I assume this would include all posts and email content, as your ISP can retain anything it wants and you likely agreed to it. So now, you don't just have to pretend like all internet activity is open to everyone, it is going to be mandated. And yes, LO is everyone, especially when they store any of your info on a the completely insecure device that you pay all your bills with and I am typing on right now (hi mom). Seems Epic has been pleading with congress for decades trying to protect your identity with little or no real response.

I offered to prepay today for one year of landline phone service in advance to avoid giving some subcontractor to the cable company my SS#, answer was NO. I tried for two hours to convince them, even offered the girl on the phone to buy it herself and I would pay her double in advance each month, answer was NO. Just wondering how many more years before you need an ID to buy food. Last year I might have said 50, I now give it less than 10 years. Anyone want to place any bets?

http://epic.org/2011/08/house-committee ... contr.html

Why not have a law that you need to CC the local police on all hand written letters and with recordings of all phone conversations? I mean, it's only a problem if you have something to hide right?

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19 Aug 2011 05:17 #19 by The Boss
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Just to repeat, I just posted a link that shows that your Fed is working on a law that says that all of your internet activity is fair game to govt. officials without a check or a balance or any provisions to make those that secure such info liable for its use...in clear violation to your constitution right to privacy....on 285 bound where people rant about the slightest little right wing misconceived injustice and then 3 pages pile up quick. I will also point out that the same entity and many others are compelling you to go on the internet or put information there or not be able to even come close to the status quo or meet your obligations under the law to do basic business or citizen activity.

I repeat this because it sounds worse than most other things discussed on line. We have the #1 consumer protections issue for over a decade being identity theft and it costs the average person almost $1000 a year (x 300 million for the country)...and this will not help one bit. Let's talk people, remember you are the one's that got worked up about landscape architects or interior designers or whatever, by all means, things that has little to do with anything meaningful.

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19 Aug 2011 08:29 #20 by Rockdoc
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posteryoyo wrote: Just to repeat, I just posted a link that shows that your Fed is working on a law that says that all of your internet activity is fair game to govt. officials without a check or a balance or any provisions to make those that secure such info liable for its use...in clear violation to your constitution right to privacy....on 285 bound where people rant about the slightest little right wing misconceived injustice and then 3 pages pile up quick. I will also point out that the same entity and many others are compelling you to go on the internet or put information there or not be able to even come close to the status quo or meet your obligations under the law to do basic business or citizen activity.

I repeat this because it sounds worse than most other things discussed on line. We have the #1 consumer protections issue for over a decade being identity theft and it costs the average person almost $1000 a year (x 300 million for the country)...and this will not help one bit. Let's talk people, remember you are the one's that got worked up about landscape architects or interior designers or whatever, by all means, things that has little to do with anything meaningful.

Thanks for bringing into focus the real issues of internet use and the growing disregard for the right to privacy. You can be stupid about it like I was in the sense that I have nothing to hide (at least from my perspective, but who knows another's perspective?). Indeed given the rampant greased invasion by law enforcement (all under the guise of protecting you from the bad guys) into your personal affairs, the internet is evolving from something whose intent may have been innocent enough to begin with, to something quite sinister. That interview CG posted of Zuckerburg as rather revealing. He clearly intended to collect personal information and make it generally available to everyone. I like, millions of others, went ahead and gave him just that. In retrospect and for future considerations, it may be prudent to a new character. Given I'm thinking of this means that a whole lot of other, much more thoughtful people than I, have already hidden themselves as best they can from exposing their personal lives. That said, it's hard to hide when you identify a ring of friends that all point in one direction. While damaging enough, it is the pursuit of business transactions that is even more disturbing. UGH. This world just keeps getting more and more complicated. Pretty soon you will not be able to buy locally with cash since that does not provide easy tracking that our "protectors" absolutely have to have <rich sarcasm>

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