GOP Congressman tells constituent "find new employer"

AspenValley wrote:

SS109 wrote: Once again the Left wants to bash the evil corporation, but if you worry about losing your job and your benefits suck, walk! If enough people desert those employers, they will have to raise wages and improve benefits.

That makes sense in a strong economy, but when there are six applicants or more for every job? Sounds like a ticket to prolonged unemployment instead.

This is one of the principles of unions, if you can get enough of your coworkers to leave with you and explain why, things will change.

You must have missed the part about:

"That makes sense in a strong economy, but when there are six applicants or more for every job? Sounds like a ticket to prolonged unemployment instead."

And I must have missed the part about a union being involved in this at all... Another strawman to knock down?

Isn't the idea that we feel that min wage and employee protections are worth loosing these jobs over. We know that is the result and we accept it.

In order for that job to not be shipped overseas, we need to lower min wage, lower worker standards or do the unthinkable....not buy a product if it is made or supported overseas.

You cannot have it both ways...in essence, this worker needs to be pushing his politicians for less laws about working cause he does not even have the politician in China's ear, and he certainly is not going to get them to raise standards or wages to fix his job.

You pick, jobs or min wage, not both. This is not the politicians fault. You don't ask the person at the McD's drive through to both give you a burger and pay you, you cannot ask for both jobs and worker protections. We chose worker protections over jobs, it's a matter of principal and all those without jobs now get to eat their principal, while the Chinese eat rice with ever larger portions of meat. This is all by design, production is well under way, too late to retool, the orders are stacking up.

This is all by design.

The problem has been that we only thought we would be challenged militarily (tons of waste) , not economically (almost nothing). We got trapped in the right wing fantasy, now the socialists and commies are kicking our ass. Keep listening to the retrogrades and we will dig an even deeper hole.

Right wing fantasy? Sorry jmc, but it was the progressives with their League of Nations/United Nations malarkey that said if we tie all nations together economically through trade we can stop world wars. Free trade stops wars, remember? That didn't come from the right wing, it came from the left wing. And now that they have their nations all tied together economically, they want protectionism instead. Tariffs on imports (Smoot Hawley anyone?), higher taxes for companies that manufacture in less developed countries. The economy is now global, there isn't any going back. We have to compete for jobs these days, and one of the ways we compete is through tax policy. Raise the amount of income subject to the privilege tax and you will see just what I mean. Ever wonder about why all the company pension plans started disappearing right about the time the government doubled the privilege tax and doubled the amount of income subject to the privilege tax? It wasn't a coincidence, I assure you.

Yeah, that's why we created 23.1 million jobs and handed off a surplus with the old Reagan tax-rates during the Clinton era to that moron, Bush, who only created 3 million jobs in 8 years, and gave us the worst recession since the Great Depression... It was all those wonderful tax-cuts that were supposed to trickle-down and create jobs... So, after 8 years of tax-cuts, where are the jobs?

You are consistent... Just insert key, wind-up, and you spew your predictable alternate-reality from Constitution Party , LawAndLiberty , ReasonOfFreedom , PoliticsOfLiberty , TeaPartyPatriot and excursions into what you THINK the Constitution says, or should have said, and the pre-FDR fantasy that you have concocted.

Wake me when you have something new.... or relevant.

PrintSmith wrote: Right wing fantasy? Sorry jmc, but it was the progressives with their League of Nations/United Nations malarkey that said if we tie all nations together economically through trade we can stop world wars. Free trade stops wars, remember? That didn't come from the right wing, it came from the left wing. And now that they have their nations all tied together economically, they want protectionism instead. Tariffs on imports (Smoot Hawley anyone?), higher taxes for companies that manufacture in less developed countries. The economy is now global, there isn't any going back. We have to compete for jobs these days, and one of the ways we compete is through tax policy. Raise the amount of income subject to the privilege tax and you will see just what I mean. Ever wonder about why all the company pension plans started disappearing right about the time the government doubled the privilege tax and doubled the amount of income subject to the privilege tax? It wasn't a coincidence, I assure you.

You are obliviously an unsuccessful loser that has no clue how real business works, keep pontificating and be the blowhard you aspire to be. You don't have a clue about the real world. Enjoy your fantasy life.

It's extremely sad how liberals like to twist a few words to fit into their violently mental ill worldview. Cory should have said, "maybe if we give companies a reason to keep jobs in the US, they wouldn't be training slave labor in other countries, like big technology companies Apple, Cisco, Oracle, and Microsoft (all lead by politically liberal leaning leaders). But,the socialist in the White House and liberals in the Democrat party continue to undermine the capitalism in the United States and continue to tax corporate profits at extraordinary rates while burdening them with expensive employee social programs."

residenttroll wrote: It's extremely sad how liberals like to twist a few words to fit into their violently mental ill worldview. Cory should have said, "maybe if we give companies a reason to keep jobs in the US, they wouldn't be training slave labor in other countries, like big technology companies Apple, Cisco, Oracle, and Microsoft (all lead by politically liberal leaning leaders). But,the socialist in the White House and liberals in the Democrat party continue to undermine the capitalism in the United States and continue to tax corporate profits at extraordinary rates while burdening them with expensive employee social programs."

The reason they are taking jobs overseas is exactly so they CAN hire "slave labor". So what you are in fact proposing is that we encourage wages here to fall to the same "slave labor" levels that prevail in India and China.

I don't think it's some "socialist" whine to prefer that that not happen.

But I suspect some of you will keep mindlessly yakking about it until it does. Don't come crying to me, though, when YOUR job ends up paying $2 an hour with no benefits. I'll just congratulate you on how lucky you were to personally experience capitalism and "free markets" in action.