Progressive Insurance funds the socialist agenda

Well, we KNOW the CEO's of the right-wing companies aren't...don't we....

(I think Cain might do some charity work...But the rest?...Nah...)

LadyJazzer wrote: Not true... I have a HUGE list of right-wing owned companies that I rarely do business with. I have a conscience....

Having a conscience and applying it in a non-partisan manner are two different animals, I guess.

I don't know... Why don't you ask all the conservatives that started this thread by declaring they would never shop Progressive for insurance because it was owned by a leftie? Hoisted on your own petard much?

HEARTLESS wrote: There is a new book out that details the IKEA founders deep Nazi ties. Will all the whiny left demand their money back?

Explains the big sucking noise in South Denver.... it's really the Third Reich of Mass Merchandising just frying all the competition.

LadyJazzer wrote: I don't know... Why don't you ask all the conservatives that started this thread by declaring they would never shop Progressive for insurance because it was owned by a leftie? Hoisted on your own petard much?

Indeed, I have been hoisted - but pleasurably so, since you quote Shakespeare. Ladyjazzer, I did not ever think you would read an old dead white philanderer's literature - very impressive, for a lib.

swampfish wrote:

WayneH wrote: It almost sounds as if several people on here would prefer a one-party political system.

How about more than a two-party system?

How about one man, one vote - and dump the Electoral College, and the voting districts?

How about if we do it the way the Founding Fathers envisioned, instead of what a tiny group of scheming politicians (from who cares which party) turned it into today?

Ummmmm swamp? It was the founding fathers who came up with the whole Electoral College system, remember? Remember that they arrived at that process to avoid the tyranny of the majority problems inherent in democracies?

Now, I'm all for a return to having the state legislatures decide who will represent the state government in Washington DC in an effort to break up the consolidation collusion that has been in place since the 17th Amendment was ratified. If we are going to have both houses of our bicameral legislature be populated as a result of popular vote of the people, and allow a political party the power to whittle down the choices before election day, why do we need a bicameral legislative system in the first place and why do we expect that the person who is elected won't be the best representative of the party at the national legislature instead of the best representative of the people?

Nope, I did not know that it was the Founding Fathers who came up with the Electoral College. Neither party is serving our country; and both have done a fine job of locking out any change to the status quo. If one-man one-vote hasn't worked historically; if both parties have legislated hard to cut new party alternatives right out of the election process in almost every state; if the Electoral College is a districting joke - then what can the average American citizen do to change the political quagmire we're in?

Vote out the teabaggers and return to sanity.

swampfish wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: I don't know... Why don't you ask all the conservatives that started this thread by declaring they would never shop Progressive for insurance because it was owned by a leftie? Hoisted on your own petard much?

Indeed, I have been hoisted - but pleasurably so, since you quote Shakespeare. Ladyjazzer, I did not ever think you would read an old dead white philanderer's literature - very impressive, for a lib.

I'm just as impressed that a knuckle-dragging neanderthal teabagger would get the reference... Also impressive.

Yep, right there in Article II, Section 1:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress.......

In answer to your question, what can we do, I might suggest working to make sure that consolidationists who seek a dismissal of the progressive form of limited power federal government contained in the Constitution are not elected to federal offices and that advocates of that progressive form of government are elected instead.