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Gun buyback for kids
08 Sep 2011 21:29 #14
by ScienceChic
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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There's a big difference between losing sight of the big picture that cutting down one tree, that is a renewable resource if not over-harvested, with a chainsaw that adds a miniscule amount of pollution, to ignoring the accumulated evidence that supports global warming otis. Everything is fine if done in moderation, and renewable resources used wisely and conscientiously; the problem occurs when that tips into excess, which with the growth of the human population, and our wastefulness and unthinking abuse of resources, is definitely occurring.
The world isn't rapidly coming to an end, it's just going to be rapidly, on a geologic time-scale, be altering to something radically different from what we've been used to for the last 11,000 years, more to our detriment moreso than the planet's itself. But it often takes too long to impart that message, and thanks to people's short attention spans, it gets shortened to a crappy soundbite of "we only have to worry about CO2" when in fact we have to worry about CO2, H2O, methane, and a whole host of other GHGs, or "humans only are causing climate change", not "human contributions to climate change are acting in addition to, and over-riding, natural causes of climate change, which is of course still occurring".
Look, I'll bet your eyes are glazing over already aren't they?!
The world isn't rapidly coming to an end, it's just going to be rapidly, on a geologic time-scale, be altering to something radically different from what we've been used to for the last 11,000 years, more to our detriment moreso than the planet's itself. But it often takes too long to impart that message, and thanks to people's short attention spans, it gets shortened to a crappy soundbite of "we only have to worry about CO2" when in fact we have to worry about CO2, H2O, methane, and a whole host of other GHGs, or "humans only are causing climate change", not "human contributions to climate change are acting in addition to, and over-riding, natural causes of climate change, which is of course still occurring".
Look, I'll bet your eyes are glazing over already aren't they?!
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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08 Sep 2011 21:45 #16
by otisptoadwater
Your message isn't lost on me, I am all about conservation because being wasteful costs me money and to me it is wrong on a moral level that I will not tolerate. On the other hand, why should a ten year old child be indoctrinated in a public school to the point that she feels militant about watching me cut down trees that need to come down? I am a big fan of education, but scaring kids with Algore films and "the sky is falling" messages stick in my craw. I know younger kids don't have the capacity to know all there is to know on climate change, heck I don't either but let's be honest with each other, at best we have accurate records about the climate for about 200 years and the oldest data is suspect.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
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Science Chic wrote: Look, I'll bet your eyes are glazing over already aren't they?!
Your message isn't lost on me, I am all about conservation because being wasteful costs me money and to me it is wrong on a moral level that I will not tolerate. On the other hand, why should a ten year old child be indoctrinated in a public school to the point that she feels militant about watching me cut down trees that need to come down? I am a big fan of education, but scaring kids with Algore films and "the sky is falling" messages stick in my craw. I know younger kids don't have the capacity to know all there is to know on climate change, heck I don't either but let's be honest with each other, at best we have accurate records about the climate for about 200 years and the oldest data is suspect.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
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