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09 Sep 2011 11:40 #1 by archer
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“This is not the capitalism of free men and free markets, of innovation and hard work and ethics, of sacrifice and of risk,” she said of the crony variety. She added: “It’s the collusion of big government and big business and big finance to the detriment of all the rest — to the little guys. It’s a slap in the face to our small business owners — the true entrepreneurs, the job creators accounting for 70 percent of the jobs in America.”

“Do you want to know why nothing ever really gets done?” she said, referring to politicians. “It’s because there’s nothing in it for them. They’ve got a lot of mouths to feed — a lot of corporate lobbyists and a lot of special interests that are counting on them to keep the good times and the money rolling along.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/10/us/10 ... ef=general


yeah.....that was Sarah Palin......who knew she could actually look outside the Tea Party's romance with big corporations and see the truth......that the politicians are bought and paid for by those who do NOT have our best interest at heart, no matter what they may say to get elected.

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09 Sep 2011 11:47 #2 by FredHayek
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lol TEA Party supports big corporations? Not the meetings I go to. They are more likely to support corporations over goverment, but they are very distrustful of the current coziness between big business and big goverment.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Sep 2011 11:52 #3 by archer
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SS109 wrote: lol TEA Party supports big corporations? Not the meetings I go to. They are more likely to support corporations over goverment, but they are very distrustful of the current coziness between big business and big goverment.


If, as you say, the Tea Party doesn't support corporations why are they so enamored of tax cuts for corps, breaks for big oil, and removal of regulations? Not to mention union busting?

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09 Sep 2011 12:07 #4 by FredHayek
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It is more about reducing the power and size of goverment than loving big corporations.

Tax credits for investing in petrol production help smaller oil companies too. And reducing regulations help out small and medium sized firms much more than large companies. Some of the regulations are even written by lobbyists to reduce competition from upstarts.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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09 Sep 2011 12:22 #5 by Martin Ent Inc
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Just when ya thought Sarah was another pretty face she says something smart.

She made three interlocking points. First, that the United States is now governed by a “permanent political class,” drawn from both parties, that is increasingly cut off from the concerns of regular people. Second, that these Republicans and Democrats have allied with big business to mutual advantage to create what she called “corporate crony capitalism.” Third, that the real political divide in the United States may no longer be between friends and foes of Big Government, but between friends and foes of vast, remote, unaccountable institutions (both public and private).

In supporting her first point, about the permanent political class, she attacked both parties’ tendency to talk of spending cuts while spending more and more; to stoke public anxiety about a credit downgrade, but take a vacation anyway; to arrive in Washington of modest means and then somehow ride the gravy train to fabulous wealth. She observed that 7 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the United States happen to be suburbs of the nation’s capital.

Her second point, about money in politics, helped to explain the first. The permanent class stays in power because it positions itself between two deep troughs: the money spent by the government and the money spent by big companies to secure decisions from government that help them make more money.

“Do you want to know why nothing ever really gets done?” she said, referring to politicians. “It’s because there’s nothing in it for them. They’ve got a lot of mouths to feed — a lot of corporate lobbyists and a lot of special interests that are counting on them to keep the good times and the money rolling along.”

Because her party has agitated for the wholesale deregulation of money in politics and the unshackling of lobbyists, these will be heard in some quarters as sacrilegious words.

Ms. Palin’s third point was more striking still: in contrast to the sweeping paeans to capitalism and the free market delivered by the Republican presidential candidates whose ranks she has yet to join, she sought to make a distinction between good capitalists and bad ones. The good ones, in her telling, are those small businesses that take risks and sink and swim in the churning market; the bad ones are well-connected megacorporations that live off bailouts, dodge taxes and profit terrifically while creating no jobs.

Strangely, she was saying things that liberals might like, if not for Ms. Palin’s having said them.

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09 Sep 2011 12:40 #6 by archer
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Martin Ent Inc wrote: Strangely, she was saying things that liberals might like, if not for Ms. Palin’s having said them.



Interesting eh? we are all guilty of this......judging, not the words, but who said them. I find I agree with Sarah on some of her points, and had to get myself past who the author of those ideas is. This is part of the problem our congress has currently.....ideas....admittedly from both sides of the aisle, being summarily dismissed because of the party that proposed them.

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09 Sep 2011 12:53 #7 by Martin Ent Inc
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I beleive we are all guilty of WHO said,,, I ain't listening,,, it's all BS.

Same as in congress, ain't my side talking I ain't gonna agree.

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09 Sep 2011 13:27 #8 by chickaree
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The mistake is in thinking that either big business OR big government is the enemy. They both are. The liberals picked one, the conservatives picked the other and now we prop them both up. How stupid is that?

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09 Sep 2011 13:28 #9 by OmniScience
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Crap..... I thought this was going to be about something important like Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend....

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09 Sep 2011 16:36 #10 by Martin Ent Inc
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Pete's still Gay.

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