Open ANWR: Refuge part of deficit solution

No need to create private sector jobs when we can pay for new government ones.

otisptoadwater wrote: But what about the spotted owls and snowy plovers that sometimes nest there?! The increased presence of humans and all the pollution might cause those rare birds to find other near by places to roost...

Or the other 195 bird species visit the refuge annually. Not to mention: Walrus, Spotted Seal, Ringed Seal, Bearded Seal, Beluga Whale, Gray Whale, Bowhead Whale, the largest land predator on earth, the Polar Bear, Shrews, Lemmings, Voles, Martens, Ermine, Wolverines Snowshoe Hares, Beavers, Otters, Wolves, Arctic Foxes, Red Foxes, Lynx, Brown (grizzly) Bears, Moose, Caribou, Dall Sheep and a relic from the ice age, the Musk Ox. 14 species of freshwater fish and 12 species of ocean going fish.

It is not as much a desolate and lifeless a place as some believe or would like other to believe it to be.

otisptoadwater wrote: It'll never work, you'll have to defeat the Sierra Club, Green Peace, and the rest of those organizations that are charged with defending the earth from us evil hydrocarbon craving ghouls. Besides, since when has logic ever produced a result when congress and the white house are involved?

It's not just the evil hydrocarbon craving ghouls we are defending it from.

Bold is mine. But I'm just a tree hugger and fish kisser.

No trees, some fish, many flying biting bugs. Lets not upset the bugs.

http://www.candidity.org/drill_baby_drill.htm
This link is to show several of the lies told about ANWR.

In 2008, the U.S. Department of Energy reported uncertainties about the USGS oil estimates for ANWR and the projected effects on oil price and supplies. "There is little direct knowledge regarding the petroleum geology of the ANWR region.... ANWR oil production is not projected to have a large impact on world oil prices.... Additional oil production resulting from the opening of ANWR would be only a small portion of total world oil production, and would likely be offset in part by somewhat lower production outside the United States". http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/

The DOE reported that annual United States consumption of crude oil and petroleum products was 7.55 billion barrels in 2006 and again in 2007, totaling 15.1 billion barrels. In comparison, the USGS estimated that the ANWR reserve contains 10.4 billion barrels. Although, only 7.7 billion barrels were thought to be within the proposed drilling region.

Photo-fish wrote: In 2008, the U.S. Department of Energy reported uncertainties about the USGS oil estimates for ANWR and the projected effects on oil price and supplies. "There is little direct knowledge regarding the petroleum geology of the ANWR region.... ANWR oil production is not projected to have a large impact on world oil prices.... Additional oil production resulting from the opening of ANWR would be only a small portion of total world oil production, and would likely be offset in part by somewhat lower production outside the United States". http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/

The DOE reported that annual United States consumption of crude oil and petroleum products was 7.55 billion barrels in 2006 and again in 2007, totaling 15.1 billion barrels. In comparison, the USGS estimated that the ANWR reserve contains 10.4 billion barrels. Although, only 7.7 billion barrels were thought to be within the proposed drilling region.

Just a sidebar, 2.7 billion barrels of oil isn't called significant! Wow, how much doee the world use in a day? A year?

How big would a tank of 2.7 billon barrels of oil be? The size of Rhode Island? Denver?
I use about 15 gallons a week, 780 gallons a year, 18 barrels of oil if you have 1:1 gasoline/oil rate, so 2.7 billion barrels would last me a very long time.

And the DOE that gives money to Solyndra should be trusted?

SS109 wrote: Just a sidebar, 2.7 billion barrels of oil isn't called significant! Wow, how much doee the world use in a day? A year?

How big would a tank of 2.7 billon barrels of oil be? The size of Rhode Island? Denver?
I use about 15 gallons a week, 780 gallons a year, 18 barrels of oil if you have 1:1 gasoline/oil rate, so 2.7 billion barrels would last me a very long time.

The world uses about 85 million barrels per day, so 2.7 billion barrels would be about a month's supply.

Try not using any petroleum for one month.

And the DOE that gives money to Solyndra should be trusted?

You hit the nail on the head Heartless but the detractors will talk about everything else but that.