Bounty of Rare Earths Discovered in Afghanistan

30 Sep 2011 09:52 #1 by ScienceChic
Maybe we can circumvent, or leverage, China now? Talk about working under pressure - this beats the lab any day! :VeryScared:

http://www.livescience.com/16315-rare-e ... istan.html
Bounty of Rare Earths Discovered in Afghanistan
Sarah Simpson, Scientific American
Date: 30 September 2011

Researchers mapped out a bounty of rare earth elements in Afghanistan's volcanic rocks. Shown here, clockwise from top center: praseodymium, cerium, lanthanum, neodymium, samarium, and gadolinium.
CREDIT: Peggy Greb, USDA (Public Domain)

Recent exploration of rare volcanic rocks in the rugged, dangerous desert of southern Afghanistan has identified world-class concentrations of rare earth elements, the prized group of raw materials that are essential in the manufacture of many modern technologies, from electric cars to solar panels. So far, geologists say, they have mapped one million metric tons of these critical elements, which include lanthanum, cerium and neodymium.

That's enough to supply the world's rare earth needs for 10 years based on current consumption, points out Robert Tucker, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) scientist who is the lead author on a report released on September 14. And from clues his team gathered during three high-security reconnaissance missions to the site, he suspects the deposit is actually much larger.

"I fully expect that our estimates are conservative," Tucker told Scientific American. "With more time, and with more people doing proper exploration, it could become a major, major discovery."

The USGS's exploration time has been strictly limited due to the deposit's location in the most dangerous part of the country, near the southern border with Pakistan. The geologists were delivered to the site in Black Hawk helicopters, and armed soldiers watched over them as they scoured the ground for clues.


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30 Sep 2011 15:09 #2 by Pony Soldier
Scooped ya on this story by months. :biggrin:

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30 Sep 2011 15:48 #3 by Wayne Harrison
I thought I'd read this before, quite a while ago.

You can never get enough samarium, I always say.

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30 Sep 2011 20:19 #4 by otisptoadwater
Doing business in Afghanistan would come with a lot of overhead in the form of providing protection from the Taliban and other unfriendlies for your workers, secure quarters to house them in, and other problems like land mines and unexploded cluster munitions all over the country. Unless a company could enlist locals to do the extraction of the rare earth minerals and deliver them in an acceptable form to a secure location in country it seems to me that it would be a very expensive and risky operation. I have to wonder if the risks would out weigh the cost of the operation and what the price of the various end products would be vs. what China already has on the market.

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01 Oct 2011 10:24 #5 by Residenttroll returns
Yeah, I think I posted this story or I seem to recall reading it in the Wall Street Journal, a few months ago.

I heard that the EPA and Department of Interior has blocked all mining operations in Afghanistan because environmentalist in Afghanistan protested mining operations.

By the way, there are plenty of rare earth materials in the US....we just can mine them.

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01 Oct 2011 10:40 #6 by Pony Soldier
I remember this being posted a while back:

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2 ... fghanistan

An then someone posted a link years older that said the same thing.

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01 Oct 2011 12:35 #7 by LOL
Good for Afghanistan, but this "rare-earth" metals thing is a bit of a misnomer and over-blown. They are not really rare, there just has never been much push to mine them. Companies are tired of dealing with China's monopoly on the stuff, so they are designing away from it, using substitutes and recycling.

I have seen and handled these neodymium magnets used in electric motors and they are stronger than you can believe, and expensive too.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-0 ... ities.html

Rare Earths Fall as Toyota Develops Alternatives:

Rising prices for the so-called light metals, such as neodymium and lanthanum, have prompted automakers including Toyota, Asia’s biggest automaker, to look at reducing the use of relatively powerful and expensive rare-earth magnets in their vehicles. Some Toyota vehicles will be built with an induction motor, which doesn’t use rare-earth magnets, said John Hanson, a Toyota spokesman in Torrance, California.

“Moving from a fixed-magnet motor to an induction motor is a huge savings with regard to rare-earth metals,” Hanson said by phone.


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01 Oct 2011 14:12 #8 by ScienceChic

towermonkey wrote: Scooped ya on this story by months. :biggrin:

Sorry tm, I must have missed it.

RT's right (gawd, that hurt to say!) :biggrin: - there is a good supply here - cool!
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2642

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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01 Oct 2011 14:38 #9 by Residenttroll returns

Science Chic wrote:
RT's right (gawd, that hurt to say!) :biggrin: - there is a good supply here - cool!
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2642


Of course, RT is right! :biggrin: :wave:

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